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Today I talk about my experience as a mom of kids with #Autism and #ADHD and how it shaped the decisions we made when deciding where our kids would go to #school. It wasn’t always a smooth ride or an easy decision. And I wish I’d been more open to the idea of putting out kids in our local public school earlier because it would have saved me (and them) a lot of heart ache. I especially wish I had not been willing to give our parish school quite so many chances.. My Camera (and the bundle I got): https://amzn.to/2qAzu3L. My Subscribe Pillow: https://amzn.to/2IYHen2. Welcome to Someday I’ll Sleep, formerly Coffee and Cupcakes! We post family vlogs daily, about our lives and because we have two daughters on the spectrum we post quite a bit about #Autism! You’ll get glimpses of what’s going on at the moment in our lives, usually in a little town in Michigan, or in the city that Paul works in and where we have about a million therapy sessions each week.. Paul and Cammie (the dad and mom at Coffee and Cupcakes) have 5 children. Sadie is 10, Maggie is 8, Patrick is 5, James is 3, and Tessie is now 2!. To Watch Our Last Video: From Homeschool to Private School: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxbyGVqtrdU. ➡️ Family Instagram: @SomedaySleep. ➡️ Cammie’s Instagram: @CammieDiane. ➡️ Twitter: @CammieDiane. ➡️ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CammieDiane/. ➡️ Cammie’s Blog: http://www.cammiediane.com. ➡️ Business inquiries: [email protected] If you’d like to help us translate and transcribe our videos we would appreciate it so very much! With 5 kids and lots of therapy appointments Cammie doesn’t have very much time left over after she finishes editing videos so transcribing is slow going around here! http://www.youtube.com/timedtext_cs_panel?c=UCeDzaWX98ne38J07npIKjkw&tab=2. DISCLAIMER: This description contains affiliate links, which means that if you click on the product links, I’ll receive a small commission.. FTC DISCLOSURE: This video is not sponsored.. That’s all for today with #somedaysleepfamilyvlogs #tuberitual #nosmallcreator
The Parent Asked: “Hello! We have a fourth grade daughter with ADHD, anxiety and suspected Asperger’s. We just withdrew her from public school to enroll her in a specialized private school. While the public school administration was very responsive to our IEP requests, the teachers didn’t always carry out the accommodations. I received sarcastic emails almost every day about what my child was and wasn’t doing, she got written up for various actions that are a result of her disabilities. There was an incident last year where she was carried “hot dog style” by her legs and body (I call it restraint, they don’t) and everything went downhill after that traumatic event. We pulled her because her self esteem was low, her anxiety was through the roof at school, she was ostracized and it carried over to home. I’m wondering if we may have any chance at asking the school system to pay her private school tuition. The only reason I question it is because admin has been responsive to various requests as stated above. Thank you!”
A growing number of affluent families in New York City are successfully suing the city on the grounds that public schools for learning-disabled children are so bad that taxpayers need to foot the bill to send their children to elite private institutions. It’s a de facto private voucher system that by and large is inaccessible for poor families.. Subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/reasontv. Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Reason.Magazine/. Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/reason. Subscribe to our podcast at iTunes: https://goo.gl/az3a7a. Reason is the planet’s leading source of news, politics, and culture from a libertarian perspective. Go to reason.com for a point of view you won’t get from legacy media and old left-right opinion magazines.. -- Click here for full text, links, credits, and downloadable versions: https://reason.com/reasontv/2018/01/25/voucher-special-needs-reimbursement-nyc
Private education choice programs for students with special needs provide parents with more freedom, yet more responsibility. In this video, we’ll explore a few more topics that can help parents make more informed decisions about these programs.. If you’re interested in learning more about these programs, check out more of our videos at ExcelinEd.org/OLH
More than 6.6 million students receive special education from public schools across America. For most of these students, the public school they are assigned to works great. But what if they need another option, or more intensive services than those offered by their public school? In this video, you will learn why private education choice programs exist for students who are seeking an education that best fits their learning needs.. To learn more about education choice and how choice programs serve students with special needs, visit Excelined.org/OLH
The special needs children and private school tuition reimbursement debate have raged since the inception of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). In the early 1980s, the Supreme Court established in the famed Rowley case, that special needs children are entitled only to appropriate educational services and not the best services available. Yes. The law up until 2009 was fairly straightforward. Parents were eligible to seek tuition reimbursement for their child’s private special education only if: Parents allowed schools the opportunity to provide FAPE to the child in a public school and; The schools failed to provide appropriate services.
There are generally two ways in which a child with special needs can be placed at a private school: school districts offer and pay for a private school as an Individualized Education Program (IEP) placement, or parents independently place their child at a private school. Under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), parents who unilaterally place their child at a private school are permitted to seek private school tuition reimbursement. Obtaining Private School Tuition Reimbursement from Your Public School District. Many parents of children with disabilities have faced the difficult choice of whether to place their child in the public school system or pay for their child to attend a private special education school. Private special education schools can offer many benefits, such as smaller class sizes, research.
To that end, you may be eligible for special education tuition reimbursement, a way to reimburse you for tuition paid for a private special school that may not be on the state’s approved list. Reimbursement Options For Your Special Needs Child Federal law dictates that schools should provide disabled children with “appropriate” education. Ultimately, a hearing officer or court may order the school district to reimburse the parents for the private school tuition if the officer or judge finds that: the public school didn’t promptly give the student appropriate special ed, and the private school placement is appropriate. Form 19-83 Special Education Nonpublic Private Facility Placement Contract; Form 50-66A Special Education Tuition Cost Sheet; Forms 50-6 6BL and 50-66BP Special Education Documentation Sheet (both the L landscape and P -portrait versions will need to be downloaded); Form 50-66C Special Education Tuition Bill and Claim Computation Form 50-66D Special Education. The National Association of Independent Schools says the average tuition for its member schools for 2011-12 was $19,100.
But not all private schools are members of the association, and many of the top private schools (especially those in large cities) can cost much more than that. However, in 2009, the Supreme Court in the Forest case held that school districts that do not provide FAPE to students with disabilities may have to provide private school tuition reimbursement under certain conditions, even if the student had not been served in public schools. OSD is responsible for setting tuition prices for more than 200 approved special education programs in approximately 100 private schools. This price setting is necessary to accommodate students with needs that cannot be met by their current school district.
OSD also sets prices for services not included in tuition, such as one-to-one aides.
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Thus, the cost of medical care includes the cost of attending a special school designed to compensate for or overcome a physical handicap, in order to qualify the individual for future normal education or for normal living, such as a school for the teaching of braille or lip reading.
Although some students with special needs receive accommodations for their special conditions through Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, only those with disabilities defined by IDEA are required to have IEPs.
However, from the table we see that the per-pupil amount is adjusted upward depending upon the distance a student must be transported, such that during the regular school year, per-pupil aid ranges from $15 to $275.
from Money and Schools by Faith Crampton, R. Craig Wood, David C. Thompson Taylor & Francis, 2015
For example, a state might provide $4,000 for each regular student, one and a half times that amount ($6,000) for vocational students, and two times that amount ($8,000) for students with special needs.
from Foundations of Education by Allan C. Ornstein, Daniel U. Levine, et. al. Cengage Learning, 2016
Students who receive SSI and go to work can take advantage of a these employment supports to include the Earned Income Exclusion, Student Earned Income Exclusion, Impairment Related Work Expense (IRWE), Blind Work Expense, Plan for Achieving Self Support (PASS), and 1619 A&B that protects Medicaid coverage (SSA, 2009).
If you were a teacher, instructor, counselor, principal, or aide in a private or public elementary or secondary school (kindergarten through grade 12) for at least 900 hours during the school year in 2018, you generally may deduct up to $250 of out-of-pocket costs for books and classroom supplies.
If you were a teacher, instructor, counselor, principal, or aide in a private or public elementary or secondary school (kindergarten through grade 12) for at least 900 hours during the school year in 2007, you generally may deduct up to $250 of out-of-pocket costs for books and classroom supplies.
The specific rulings tend to limit the money available in regular schools to meet pupils’ special needs compared to that which is spent on pupils once they have been admitted to special education.
The handbook includes the Illinois Special Education Pupil Reimbursement form, the Special Education Tuition Cost Sheet, the Special Education Documentation Sheets, the Special Education Tuition Bill and Claim Computation form, and the Special Education Depreciation Schedule form.
from Resources in Education by National Institute of Education (U.S.), Educational Resources Information Center (U.S.), National Library of Education (U.S.) Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, National Institute of Education, 2000
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wait…middle class are now considered rich? since when? Those parents don’t look rich or act rich so where are the rich entitled part? Truth be told, there are tons of programs for special need kids available in public school so It sounds like there is a lot of misinformation.
My special education teachers didn’t give a jack shit about me after I graduate high school There just left me with the wolves they didn’t even give me any support or any service program after I graduate they did not even talk to me about my future
AHAHHAHA “its draining money…. we are significantly under resourced” 4:20 Uh hey dumbass your beloved budgets been BLOOMING for DECADESyet your output has been PLUMMETING. lol got any more crappy excuses?
Money isn’t the issue though, those private schools are a failure as much as the public. For a good example of a workable program > http://www.mercerdd.org/
Public schools in most states do not provide appropriate settings for our special needs children. Having a young child with schizophrenia, I was told she was being placed with behavioral disturbed children. My daughter hallucinates and hears voices, she’s not aggressive or a behavior issue. We utilized her McKay scholarship, through her IEP, to place her in a special needs private school. It was the ONLY reason she could attend school.
Again reason misses the point. A school is simply a building that has four walls and a roof. It doesn’t matter if its publicly own or privately own. What makes a school is the individuals who attend it. So if a school is chaotic. Then the individuals attending it are the engines of chaos. Private schools can get rid of their chaos where public schools cannot.
Lack of resources haha?!? My district had 6 vice principals in 2 schools and most were basically nonessential. Getting rid of the bureaucracy will lower costs and make quality education more accessible as a whole for everyone. The best way to do that is create a free market in which schools who invest in useless executives will be weeded out by economics. This will never happen because of the teacher’s union, however.
Quality DOES require resources. To train teachers, to equip and maintain schools, etc. Diverting those scarce resources to a handful of charter schools violates the rights of poorer children to proper education.
It’s saddening how those “affluent” parents are so narrow minded they aren’t able to grasp the reality that by asserting their child as disabled labels them as disabled for life. I mean sure it may be easy to believe that a 10 year old child has a learning disability, so it’s off to private school for them, but when they hit working age (and as an employer) I would pass on their resume for someone who was a team player and survived the normal curriculum. Those parents are forever ensuring their kids will be subordinate to the likes of a well versed individual who was able to endure the challenges of every day life regardless of financial status. Anyways, the future is not so much about school, it’s about access to information.
Suing and getting free tuition is supposed to be punitive damages against the city for not allowing schools to be up to code. If the city wants to stop paying for these so-called “rich freeloaders” they need to update their public education for disabled people. I feel like the shame implied on the rich families is misdirected. The city has the money. We just need to spend it better.
It’s not a “privilege” to have the agency to get on a computer and research what your options are. If parents are too stupid, or don’t care enough to spend a few hours Googling information and advice on how to best help their child, then the astronomical cost of “special ed” for their kid is very likely a poor public investment. Every dollar diverted from kids with a high likelihood of never making a net positive contribution to society gets taken away from the kids who very likely WILL. Not only that, most of the high-cost special-ed kids who cost the taxpayers a fortune to “educate” will end up continuing to be a financial drain on society for their entire lives via “gov benefits” and welfare programs! Truth and reality don’t care about anyone’s fee-feels.
This is a great video. I recently released a bunch of videos about public education and the learning disabled portion of this needed to be its own video. I’m glad Reason tackled it.
WTF gives that Jew the right to get 145,000 dollars a year to send his daughter to CT…….for anxiety? Why does she have anxiety in the first place? Where’s DCF and why aren’t they checking into some of these families for the less severe? Just try working/spending time with her. She is your daughter! Privatize all schools!!
We need to pay more towards Good education of our children! Pro choice is just one way to help, but paying teacher what they deserve is another. It is an investment in our future! Take a moment to think of this:
They will be the ones helping you in your old age in therapy, inventing, building, counseling, work in hospitals, or even becoming the leaders of tomorrow. If those same kids are limited on education, than their future isn’t as bright as it could be. They will be less likely to succeed which translates to less able to help you latter in life. They will also be less able to earn more money and pay it forward to social security (which if it still is around when you get to that age you will need more than ever with dropping childbirth rates. Immigration can only go so far; especially if they don’t contribute).
Children our our future for better or for worse. we cut them short and we in turn will be cut short.
Reason ought to spend some time and energy on something, anything other than some other topic highlighting the divisiveness and inequities in our society. It’d be refreshing.
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How do people not get this? It’s basic incentives. When you give people free money no matter what, they have no reason to produce quality service! That’s why public schools fail. That’s why government fails, and that’s why EVERYTHING that’s publicly funded fails. They’re getting paid with stolen funds! They have no incentive to work any harder because their pay isn’t dependent on their work. It’s a miracle that they manage to educate anyone at all! There’s no wonder it’s broken. It was never good in the first place and it’ll only get worse.
If they can afford it they should pay. It’s too bad that if your autistic child wants to be accepted and treated good in a school you have to be rich to send them to a private school. Most public school systems use ABA and don’t treat autistic children too well. The school that treated me the best was a private school in Manhattan that did not use ABA but only the rich could afford unless you fought the DOE to pay to send your kid to that school.
I went to pubic sped school. It was a joke. Under resourced? In NYC public schools? Sell me another one. It’s government run, there’s never enough money. This is perfect example for school choice, and to get rid of public unions.
As was suggested in the video, part of the problem and the expense comes from the fact that the schools fight the parents on this at all. You see, in order to sue for the proper placement for your child, it’s going to take you about $10-$14,000 to adjudicate that case. That is on the assumption that you’re willing to have your child in a substandard school that can’t meet their needs While the case goes through. Or perhaps, willing is not the best word to use. Perhaps it’s just simply that you don’t have a choice and that is usually the case. This does not include the fancy, Park Avenue, evaluations. I don’t have $35-$50,000 or any ability to access it to pay for my daughter’s private school in the interim.When the students and parents win the case, the school system not only has to pay for the placement, they have to reimburse legal fees. In addition to this, there’s a system of punishment and consequences put on school administration because we want people to be held “accountable.“ It sounds good on paper. Believe me, some of the school administrators I have dealt with have been so underhanded in the interest of self-preservation that they deserve to be fired and worse. The problem is that when you put a career administrator in a position of having to defend their careers, their livelihoods, their ability to support their families, their health insurance, etc. on whether or not they can deliver, you wouldn’t believe how underhanded and nasty they can become when you challenge it in any way. It has to end. I think on a certain level that maybe the better thing past a certain level of disability would be for the public schools is simply admit that they can’t handle it and that every student gets a private school choice first without the fight. It’s not is if it’s inexpensive to educate each student even in a public school.
I’m sorry, but if you first kid is disabled. Whats the chance your next is also going to be disabled? Its very high. If she would have stopped having kids after the first, she wouldnt have been in this damn problem and required taxes payers to foot the fucking bill.
Does any anyone think the 1975 IDEA law was a missed opportunity for vouchers for everyone, like a lot of libertarians would want to see? Instead of providing the special education programs themselves, the public school system should just pay for disabled kids to go wherever they want? Was anybody arguing for that back then? If it had happened, do you think that over time, more and more things would’ve qualified as disabilities, until it got to the point where almost anyone could go to any school they want to and have the government pay for it?
I used to think it was a matter of funding, but I no longer think that way. I believe it is expectations in school and especially at home that make the most difference. Parents that are involved in their children’s education see more success. This doesn’t mean a parent has to understand all that is taught, they just need to be involved and informed. Some of the worst schools, based on graduation rates and test scores, are funded more than schools out performing them. Catholic schools, charter schools, and similar semi private and private schools do a better job of preparing students with a lot less funding per student. Resources and funding does come into play but that is at a more advanced level, when we have everyone running. Right now, we have some crawling and others, at best, a quick walk. My statement does not take into account disabled kids. In those situations, it really is dependent on the type of disability. If the need is significantly greater than average then greater resources are going to help.
The public school system is just broken. Private schools are the only way to fix this. Why should people who don’t have children and never plan on having children be forced to pay for the schooling of others? And whenever money is given free by the government, you end up with inefficient bureaucratic quagmires, just like public schools are here. The worst teachers are immune from being fired, since they are part of a teachers union. There is no chance of picking qualified teachers because its all about seniority and not how well they teach.
So public school sucks at managing itself and serving kids so let’s give them more money… How about opening the doors to private schools and make the public schools compete for students and funds?
I hate when people use euphemisms, these people did not sue the “city” they sued their friends, neighbors, and other city residents to force them to pay for their kids exorbitantly expensive education.
Wait what the fuck? This bitch has three disabled children and sues her way into private education for all of them covered by taxes? What a disgusting human being.
F*** that s*** if you wanted to have f**** disabled kids that’s your f**** problem now cough up the money and pay for yourself I don’t understand why my text have to help your f**** kid this is Trump era
Until we re-embrace liberty and equality under the law, there will be nothing but such stories as the political class looks out for itself and the donor class and cares nothing about the voter class.
We tend to spend too much on the disabled and genetically disadvantaged, or on the elderly to give them just a few extra old age years while ignoring the common good.
When they say they should have developed reading skills at 1st or 2nd grade level, take that with a grain of salt, as it really depends on age appropriateness. A second grade aged kid can easily catch up to whatever reading level in a few months and be just fine, because that’s the normal time reading becomes age appropriate. You can teach kids before that, you can have them writing papers in Kindergarten, but it’s like the Early Childhood Education system. The results, the impact, the amount the kids are doing better than their peers, will dissolve within months of the other kids hitting age appropriate milestones, and then, ideally, obtaining their expected intellectual level. With math it can be as late as 4th grade, though some stuff, obviously you can motivate a kid to learn younger, especially because money is quite awesome. Anyway, you introduce stuff and teach what they’re interested in without insisting until it’s age appropriate. This is just me thinking how it probably should be, not how I actually teach my own, I use a more traditional layout in compliance with the law, and to some extent to keep up with other kids in basic areas, though they tend to excel in others regular schooling just doesn’t look at. Anyway, yeah, the current system keeps trying to get kids in earlier and earlier when the poor kids just need a hot meal, and most of their progress is due specifically to that meal, rather than the education itself. What am I not saying? Ideally they would have their family? Oh, social responsibilities and practices, how to get along and cultural norms… little kids are great at learning that stuff and religious and moral lessons. Stuff like that, the basis of being a good citizen in the world and discipline to do chores and being expected to take on challenging tasks. Well, I did learn that if you use the computer too much the kiddos end up with handwriting like sandskrit, lol, so I’ve gotta revamp that, though I think they’ll catch right up. It’s kind of funny, really, but they read more than almost all other kids, except home-schooled kids. That’s my take. It’s a little brutal, I suppose, but it doesn’t rule out early childhood education, even of academic material, though I question the value of it for most students. On the other hand, school is a bit of a waste of time in general, and if you really focus you can run a kid through college by the time they’re 18. But, you know, we weren’t really into that either. The US system needs to really step back and look at age appropriateness in objective terms and how it works in different places on earth. Singapore might be half a smidge higher than Sweden, but they spent years more on it. What does that really say about the Singapore method? Most likely that it managed to catch more kids who were marginally interested in the subject. Everyone else just wasted a bunch of time until the material become age appropriate, I mean it’s not like they use it to make money or something when they’re little kids.
If you start giving money to people with disabled kids, the amount of disabled kids is going to skyrocket. Just look at the lady who as luck would have it, has 3 disabled kids. Hmmmmm
Re the Virtue Lesson: Unbelievable! And the the whole “the family is a bad fit for the parish” The parish like the church? Again: Unbelievable! Where was the pastor in all this? Glad you found a better situation in public anyway! Your kids are awesome and it was their loss.
Also we also had a negative experience at a private school but also at a Catholic school and ours are fully funded by the government like the public ones. It was a power thing with the principal.
‘Rich get to, poor don’t get to’ If they were rich they could afford the private school. How would the poor lose these cases but rich win? These cases are identical in content, no? I don’t see how this is rich vs poor.
I always have to come down to the utilitarian argument that spending public money on certain disabled students who will not be able to pay that money back with a career and taxes is a waste. It’s mean but pragmatic
as a mother with a special needs child in Floridait doesn’t matter whether your rich or poor, we have a program here called the McKay Scholarship that can send special needs kids to other schools outside of their district (whether it be private or something other), and it has nothing to do with income, it has to do with having a special needs child.
What was the point checking those kids waistbands/socks while not checking their bag? Just making the poor kids feel like criminals while not increasing security at all.
This will be like how medicinal weed caused skyrocketing cases of migraines and glaucoma. If you start having the government pay for private school for “disabled” kids suddenly every kid is going to be disabled.
Also, having the government pay for private schools at all is a bad idea. As we have seen from healthcare and education already once the government gets involved it shatters the market dynamic and causes uncontrollable inflation.
Sorry, but some education and children are not worth the working tax payer to pay for their education. If the parents want to spend the cash to educate their child, then so be it, otherwise, those children get what all other citizens get.
This was a wonderful video that accurately represents the experience. But you make a comment at about 10:20 in which you err to say “middle-class parents will always be able to get the best options for their kids.” No. Stick with your original premise. Rich people can do that. Middle-class people don’t have the money that these lawyers and the schools ask just lying around, and for the poor people, there is at least some option of agencies that do free legal representation. Now, the problem with a lot of those agencies is that they will sometimes directly steer parents away from private schools. That is an unethical nightmare. But the bottom line is it’s the families in the middle that are really getting screwed. We are just wealthy enough that it’s expected we can do it for ourselves, and just broke enough that we can’t.
This is a very slanted news story. Totally one sided; focusing on people with insane entitlement mentalities and hardly mentioning all of the free resources available for disabled children in New York City. I know affluent families in New York who send their normal kids to private school and their disabled kids to public school, and they heap praise on the city’s resources for special education. The public schools provide personalized curricula, they hire private companies to provide after0school tutoring, counseling, and job and life training programs. One kid I know was allowed to stay in his high school for an extra year to receive totally free job training… the government/taxpayers pick up the bill for all of this. I know another kid with a rare communication disability whose New York City public school hired a specialist to come in and help design a communication tablet device specifically catered to this ONE New York City public school kid. This was totally free; they spent months training the kid and his parents to use the device. The city organized the entire thing! This news story hardly gives a fair account of the services available to New York City disabled kids.
We arent even considering private schools for Parker the resources just aren’t there and a lot of them have a group mentality and many aren’t equipped to handle special needs kids
That father uses tax players money to ship the the daughter he does not want to boarding school. It is also very excessive to send her for just anxiety.
I am far from any kind of eugenic thinker, but it is hard not to wonder what kind of super geniuses we could be raising if we had this kind of 1-on-1 education for kids that are gifted to begin with. We’d have people living on Mars by now.
Also, if you have a kid that is developmentally challenged and then have another, at what point would you be better serving the world to NOT have a third like the lady in this video? Jeez, I mean that is the definition of eugenics. I’m not trying to be hateful towards these kids, I’m just not sure what the right solution is. I spend between $100-200 to send my kid to elementary school. This lady is suing the city/state/? to get $45,000 x 3 kids per year to help them even achieve the same level of education as a normal kid going to public education and it is seen as morally wrong to question it.
I’ve had parochial school teachers basically tell me not to send my children to their school because they can’t meet their needs. I’ve heard they have a resource teacher now but she’s part time. It’s a huge disappointment that in a city our size there isn’t a parochial school specially for kids with special needs. We’re a voucher state. But that’s a letter to the bishop and superintendent for another day.
I’ve also worked at a parochial school and if you think retaining good public school teachers is difficult on average parochial school teachers earn a great deal less and have access to fewer resources. So they attract really awful teachers. I can tell you horror stories.
But public isn’t perfect either. You have to choose what’s best for your family as you said.
wait…middle class are now considered rich? since when? Those parents don’t look rich or act rich so where are the rich entitled part? Truth be told, there are tons of programs for special need kids available in public school so It sounds like there is a lot of misinformation.
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With Without mental problem.
$55k per year to educate one child.
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They’re not a bunch of Helen Kellers. There’s no reason for the average to be that high, even for special needs.
My special education teachers didn’t give a jack shit about me after I graduate high school There just left me with the wolves they didn’t even give me any support or any service program after I graduate they did not even talk to me about my future
AHAHHAHA “its draining money…. we are significantly under resourced” 4:20
Uh hey dumbass your beloved budgets been BLOOMING for DECADESyet your output has been PLUMMETING. lol got any more crappy excuses?
Okay first of all, kids just should not grow up in New York City. Second, you don’t think that divorce had an impact on those kids having anxiety?
Money isn’t the issue though, those private schools are a failure as much as the public.
For a good example of a workable program > http://www.mercerdd.org/
Public schools in most states do not provide appropriate settings for our special needs children. Having a young child with schizophrenia, I was told she was being placed with behavioral disturbed children. My daughter hallucinates and hears voices, she’s not aggressive or a behavior issue. We utilized her McKay scholarship, through her IEP, to place her in a special needs private school. It was the ONLY reason she could attend school.
Again reason misses the point. A school is simply a building that has four walls and a roof. It doesn’t matter if its publicly own or privately own. What makes a school is the individuals who attend it. So if a school is chaotic. Then the individuals attending it are the engines of chaos. Private schools can get rid of their chaos where public schools cannot.
Lack of resources haha?!? My district had 6 vice principals in 2 schools and most were basically nonessential. Getting rid of the bureaucracy will lower costs and make quality education more accessible as a whole for everyone. The best way to do that is create a free market in which schools who invest in useless executives will be weeded out by economics. This will never happen because of the teacher’s union, however.
Quality DOES require resources. To train teachers, to equip and maintain schools, etc. Diverting those scarce resources to a handful of charter schools violates the rights of poorer children to proper education.
Great story! What good education comes down to is good teachers; teachers who can get through to the students by showing them they care.
It’s saddening how those “affluent” parents are so narrow minded they aren’t able to grasp the reality that by asserting their child as disabled labels them as disabled for life. I mean sure it may be easy to believe that a 10 year old child has a learning disability, so it’s off to private school for them, but when they hit working age (and as an employer) I would pass on their resume for someone who was a team player and survived the normal curriculum. Those parents are forever ensuring their kids will be subordinate to the likes of a well versed individual who was able to endure the challenges of every day life regardless of financial status. Anyways, the future is not so much about school, it’s about access to information.
Suing and getting free tuition is supposed to be punitive damages against the city for not allowing schools to be up to code. If the city wants to stop paying for these so-called “rich freeloaders” they need to update their public education for disabled people. I feel like the shame implied on the rich families is misdirected. The city has the money. We just need to spend it better.
It’s not a “privilege” to have the agency to get on a computer and research what your options are. If parents are too stupid, or don’t care enough to spend a few hours Googling information and advice on how to best help their child, then the astronomical cost of “special ed” for their kid is very likely a poor public investment. Every dollar diverted from kids with a high likelihood of never making a net positive contribution to society gets taken away from the kids who very likely WILL. Not only that, most of the high-cost special-ed kids who cost the taxpayers a fortune to “educate” will end up continuing to be a financial drain on society for their entire lives via “gov benefits” and welfare programs! Truth and reality don’t care about anyone’s fee-feels.
This is a great video. I recently released a bunch of videos about public education and the learning disabled portion of this needed to be its own video. I’m glad Reason tackled it.
WTF gives that Jew the right to get 145,000 dollars a year to send his daughter to CT…….for anxiety? Why does she have anxiety in the first place? Where’s DCF and why aren’t they checking into some of these families for the less severe? Just try working/spending time with her. She is your daughter!
Privatize all schools!!
We need to pay more towards Good education of our children! Pro choice is just one way to help, but paying teacher what they deserve is another. It is an investment in our future!
Take a moment to think of this:
They will be the ones helping you in your old age in therapy, inventing, building, counseling, work in hospitals, or even becoming the leaders of tomorrow. If those same kids are limited on education, than their future isn’t as bright as it could be. They will be less likely to succeed which translates to less able to help you latter in life. They will also be less able to earn more money and pay it forward to social security (which if it still is around when you get to that age you will need more than ever with dropping childbirth rates. Immigration can only go so far; especially if they don’t contribute).
Children our our future for better or for worse. we cut them short and we in turn will be cut short.
Reason ought to spend some time and energy on something, anything other than some other topic highlighting the divisiveness and inequities in our society.
It’d be refreshing.
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How do people not get this? It’s basic incentives. When you give people free money no matter what, they have no reason to produce quality service! That’s why public schools fail. That’s why government fails, and that’s why EVERYTHING that’s publicly funded fails. They’re getting paid with stolen funds! They have no incentive to work any harder because their pay isn’t dependent on their work. It’s a miracle that they manage to educate anyone at all! There’s no wonder it’s broken. It was never good in the first place and it’ll only get worse.
If they can afford it they should pay. It’s too bad that if your autistic child wants to be accepted and treated good in a school you have to be rich to send them to a private school. Most public school systems use ABA and don’t treat autistic children too well. The school that treated me the best was a private school in Manhattan that did not use ABA but only the rich could afford unless you fought the DOE to pay to send your kid to that school.
I went to pubic sped school. It was a joke. Under resourced? In NYC public schools? Sell me another one. It’s government run, there’s never enough money. This is perfect example for school choice, and to get rid of public unions.
As was suggested in the video, part of the problem and the expense comes from the fact that the schools fight the parents on this at all. You see, in order to sue for the proper placement for your child, it’s going to take you about $10-$14,000 to adjudicate that case. That is on the assumption that you’re willing to have your child in a substandard school that can’t meet their needs While the case goes through. Or perhaps, willing is not the best word to use. Perhaps it’s just simply that you don’t have a choice and that is usually the case. This does not include the fancy, Park Avenue, evaluations. I don’t have $35-$50,000 or any ability to access it to pay for my daughter’s private school in the interim.When the students and parents win the case, the school system not only has to pay for the placement, they have to reimburse legal fees. In addition to this, there’s a system of punishment and consequences put on school administration because we want people to be held “accountable.“ It sounds good on paper. Believe me, some of the school administrators I have dealt with have been so underhanded in the interest of self-preservation that they deserve to be fired and worse. The problem is that when you put a career administrator in a position of having to defend their careers, their livelihoods, their ability to support their families, their health insurance, etc. on whether or not they can deliver, you wouldn’t believe how underhanded and nasty they can become when you challenge it in any way. It has to end. I think on a certain level that maybe the better thing past a certain level of disability would be for the public schools is simply admit that they can’t handle it and that every student gets a private school choice first without the fight. It’s not is if it’s inexpensive to educate each student even in a public school.
I’m sorry, but if you first kid is disabled. Whats the chance your next is also going to be disabled? Its very high. If she would have stopped having kids after the first, she wouldnt have been in this damn problem and required taxes payers to foot the fucking bill.
There is a lack of definition of excellence in education,it exits in theory and when it is approached in reality its parameters change.
Does any anyone think the 1975 IDEA law was a missed opportunity for vouchers for everyone, like a lot of libertarians would want to see? Instead of providing the special education programs themselves, the public school system should just pay for disabled kids to go wherever they want? Was anybody arguing for that back then? If it had happened, do you think that over time, more and more things would’ve qualified as disabilities, until it got to the point where almost anyone could go to any school they want to and have the government pay for it?
I used to think it was a matter of funding, but I no longer think that way. I believe it is expectations in school and especially at home that make the most difference. Parents that are involved in their children’s education see more success. This doesn’t mean a parent has to understand all that is taught, they just need to be involved and informed. Some of the worst schools, based on graduation rates and test scores, are funded more than schools out performing them. Catholic schools, charter schools, and similar semi private and private schools do a better job of preparing students with a lot less funding per student. Resources and funding does come into play but that is at a more advanced level, when we have everyone running. Right now, we have some crawling and others, at best, a quick walk. My statement does not take into account disabled kids. In those situations, it really is dependent on the type of disability. If the need is significantly greater than average then greater resources are going to help.
The public school system is just broken. Private schools are the only way to fix this. Why should people who don’t have children and never plan on having children be forced to pay for the schooling of others? And whenever money is given free by the government, you end up with inefficient bureaucratic quagmires, just like public schools are here. The worst teachers are immune from being fired, since they are part of a teachers union. There is no chance of picking qualified teachers because its all about seniority and not how well they teach.
Single mother with three kids suing for free education is now being portrayed as heroic by Reason TV!?! What is this world coming to?
So public school sucks at managing itself and serving kids so let’s give them more money… How about opening the doors to private schools and make the public schools compete for students and funds?
I hate when people use euphemisms, these people did not sue the “city” they sued their friends, neighbors, and other city residents to force them to pay for their kids exorbitantly expensive education.
Wait what the fuck? This bitch has three disabled children and sues her way into private education for all of them covered by taxes? What a disgusting human being.
F*** that s*** if you wanted to have f**** disabled kids that’s your f**** problem now cough up the money and pay for yourself I don’t understand why my text have to help your f**** kid this is Trump era
Until we re-embrace liberty and equality under the law, there will be nothing but such stories as the political class looks out for itself and the donor class and cares nothing about the voter class.
We tend to spend too much on the disabled and genetically disadvantaged, or on the elderly to give them just a few extra old age years while ignoring the common good.
When they say they should have developed reading skills at 1st or 2nd grade level, take that with a grain of salt, as it really depends on age appropriateness. A second grade aged kid can easily catch up to whatever reading level in a few months and be just fine, because that’s the normal time reading becomes age appropriate. You can teach kids before that, you can have them writing papers in Kindergarten, but it’s like the Early Childhood Education system. The results, the impact, the amount the kids are doing better than their peers, will dissolve within months of the other kids hitting age appropriate milestones, and then, ideally, obtaining their expected intellectual level. With math it can be as late as 4th grade, though some stuff, obviously you can motivate a kid to learn younger, especially because money is quite awesome. Anyway, you introduce stuff and teach what they’re interested in without insisting until it’s age appropriate. This is just me thinking how it probably should be, not how I actually teach my own, I use a more traditional layout in compliance with the law, and to some extent to keep up with other kids in basic areas, though they tend to excel in others regular schooling just doesn’t look at. Anyway, yeah, the current system keeps trying to get kids in earlier and earlier when the poor kids just need a hot meal, and most of their progress is due specifically to that meal, rather than the education itself. What am I not saying? Ideally they would have their family? Oh, social responsibilities and practices, how to get along and cultural norms… little kids are great at learning that stuff and religious and moral lessons. Stuff like that, the basis of being a good citizen in the world and discipline to do chores and being expected to take on challenging tasks. Well, I did learn that if you use the computer too much the kiddos end up with handwriting like sandskrit, lol, so I’ve gotta revamp that, though I think they’ll catch right up. It’s kind of funny, really, but they read more than almost all other kids, except home-schooled kids. That’s my take. It’s a little brutal, I suppose, but it doesn’t rule out early childhood education, even of academic material, though I question the value of it for most students. On the other hand, school is a bit of a waste of time in general, and if you really focus you can run a kid through college by the time they’re 18. But, you know, we weren’t really into that either. The US system needs to really step back and look at age appropriateness in objective terms and how it works in different places on earth. Singapore might be half a smidge higher than Sweden, but they spent years more on it. What does that really say about the Singapore method? Most likely that it managed to catch more kids who were marginally interested in the subject. Everyone else just wasted a bunch of time until the material become age appropriate, I mean it’s not like they use it to make money or something when they’re little kids.
If you start giving money to people with disabled kids, the amount of disabled kids is going to skyrocket. Just look at the lady who as luck would have it, has 3 disabled kids. Hmmmmm
Re the Virtue Lesson: Unbelievable! And the the whole “the family is a bad fit for the parish” The parish like the church? Again: Unbelievable! Where was the pastor in all this? Glad you found a better situation in public anyway! Your kids are awesome and it was their loss.
Also we also had a negative experience at a private school but also at a Catholic school and ours are fully funded by the government like the public ones. It was a power thing with the principal.
‘Rich get to, poor don’t get to’ If they were rich they could afford the private school.
How would the poor lose these cases but rich win? These cases are identical in content, no?
I don’t see how this is rich vs poor.
I always have to come down to the utilitarian argument that spending public money on certain disabled students who will not be able to pay that money back with a career and taxes is a waste. It’s mean but pragmatic
as a mother with a special needs child in Floridait doesn’t matter whether your rich or poor, we have a program here called the McKay Scholarship that can send special needs kids to other schools outside of their district (whether it be private or something other), and it has nothing to do with income, it has to do with having a special needs child.
What was the point checking those kids waistbands/socks while not checking their bag? Just making the poor kids feel like criminals while not increasing security at all.
This will be like how medicinal weed caused skyrocketing cases of migraines and glaucoma. If you start having the government pay for private school for “disabled” kids suddenly every kid is going to be disabled.
Also, having the government pay for private schools at all is a bad idea. As we have seen from healthcare and education already once the government gets involved it shatters the market dynamic and causes uncontrollable inflation.
$55,000 per child is far too much to spend.
Sorry, but some education and children are not worth the working tax payer to pay for their education. If the parents want to spend the cash to educate their child, then so be it, otherwise, those children get what all other citizens get.
This was a wonderful video that accurately represents the experience. But you make a comment at about 10:20 in which you err to say “middle-class parents will always be able to get the best options for their kids.” No. Stick with your original premise. Rich people can do that. Middle-class people don’t have the money that these lawyers and the schools ask just lying around, and for the poor people, there is at least some option of agencies that do free legal representation. Now, the problem with a lot of those agencies is that they will sometimes directly steer parents away from private schools. That is an unethical nightmare. But the bottom line is it’s the families in the middle that are really getting screwed. We are just wealthy enough that it’s expected we can do it for ourselves, and just broke enough that we can’t.
This is a very slanted news story. Totally one sided; focusing on people with insane entitlement mentalities and hardly mentioning all of the free resources available for disabled children in New York City. I know affluent families in New York who send their normal kids to private school and their disabled kids to public school, and they heap praise on the city’s resources for special education. The public schools provide personalized curricula, they hire private companies to provide after0school tutoring, counseling, and job and life training programs. One kid I know was allowed to stay in his high school for an extra year to receive totally free job training… the government/taxpayers pick up the bill for all of this. I know another kid with a rare communication disability whose New York City public school hired a specialist to come in and help design a communication tablet device specifically catered to this ONE New York City public school kid. This was totally free; they spent months training the kid and his parents to use the device. The city organized the entire thing! This news story hardly gives a fair account of the services available to New York City disabled kids.
We arent even considering private schools for Parker the resources just aren’t there and a lot of them have a group mentality and many aren’t equipped to handle special needs kids
That father uses tax players money to ship the the daughter he does not want to boarding school. It is also very excessive to send her for just anxiety.
Solution: Privatize ALL the schools, each kids gets a voucher to go where they choose. Publik skools and their unions ARE the drain on education.
I am far from any kind of eugenic thinker, but it is hard not to wonder what kind of super geniuses we could be raising if we had this kind of 1-on-1 education for kids that are gifted to begin with. We’d have people living on Mars by now.
Also, if you have a kid that is developmentally challenged and then have another, at what point would you be better serving the world to NOT have a third like the lady in this video? Jeez, I mean that is the definition of eugenics. I’m not trying to be hateful towards these kids, I’m just not sure what the right solution is. I spend between $100-200 to send my kid to elementary school. This lady is suing the city/state/? to get $45,000 x 3 kids per year to help them even achieve the same level of education as a normal kid going to public education and it is seen as morally wrong to question it.
I’ve had parochial school teachers basically tell me not to send my children to their school because they can’t meet their needs. I’ve heard they have a resource teacher now but she’s part time. It’s a huge disappointment that in a city our size there isn’t a parochial school specially for kids with special needs. We’re a voucher state. But that’s a letter to the bishop and superintendent for another day.
I’ve also worked at a parochial school and if you think retaining good public school teachers is difficult on average parochial school teachers earn a great deal less and have access to fewer resources. So they attract really awful teachers. I can tell you horror stories.
But public isn’t perfect either. You have to choose what’s best for your family as you said.