School Success for Non-Verbal Learning Disability

 

Non-Verbal Learning Disability for the Classroom (Presentation and Handouts for Schools and Parents)

Video taken from the channel: The NVLD Project


 

Non Verbal Learning Disability in Children

Video taken from the channel: TSSUS


 

On Being an Adult with NVLD (Facebook Live with Linda Karanzalis)

Video taken from the channel: The NVLD Project


 

What is NVLD?

Video taken from the channel: The NVLD Project


 

Understanding Non-Verbal Learning Disabilities From Diagnosis to Intervention

Video taken from the channel: [email protected]


 

Thriving With NVLD: Living With Nonverbal Learning Disorder (A Personal Story)

Video taken from the channel: Understood


 

What Is Nonverbal Learning Disability?

Video taken from the channel: The National Center for Learning Disabilities


School Success for Non-Verbal Learning Disability. Nonverbal learning disorder, or NVLD, is a learning disorder characterized by difficulty with nonverbal skills, such as spatial-visual processing and understanding abstract or nuanced language. Understanding concrete language and decoding words for reading are not part of NVLD. Nonverbal Learning Disabilities: A Guide to School Success shares the experience of three professionals who work with students with NLD in a variety of settings. Whether it is how to best present a writing assignment or how to ask a classmate to a dance, the authors have come to appreciate these students as creative, informed and personable.

Colleges like Syracuse University, Dean College, Curry College, and Marist College have strong programs that provide tremendous support for students with disabilities and have the structure that can help NVLD students succeed. Adulthood then comes and the challenges stated earlier may either become worse, or some you conquered earlier may return. We offer learning disabilities, dyslexia programs for children in NYC and NJ. Our techniques, includes Orton Gillingham method for treating child having ADHD.

Strategies for Success: for the Student with a Nonverbal Learning Disorder. (Originally published in SPINS, Winter 2006) Most elementary, middle, and high school students face increasing academic challenges as they. Nonverbal learning disability (NLD) is believed by some to be a neuropsychological disability. Although it has been studied for the past 30 years (by Byron Rourke, Ph.D. and others), it has not yet been included as a diagnostic category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV TR). Students with nonverbal learning disabilities present a perplexing challenge in the classroom, and understanding the symptoms is an important first step.

Once the disorder is recognized, targeted interventions can improve the outlook for students and educators. Sue, age 10, was telling her teacher about Amy’s mis-behavior. Make use of your child’s verbal skills to help with social interactions and non-verbal experiences. For example, giving a verbal explanation of visual material. Teach your child about non-verbal communication (facial expressions, gestures, etc.).

Help them learn how to tell from others’ reactions whether they are communicating well. The NVLD Project is working to educate parents, educators, professionals and the public about Non-Verbal Learning Disability. Through awareness campaigns and educational workshops at various schools in New York, we have helped those working with children with NVLD better understand the disorder.

Academic Interventions for Nonverbal Learning Disorder Given the complexities of NLD, children do best when receiving help from a team of professionals including a neuropsychologist, occupational therapist, education specialist, and speech and language therapist. Nonverbal Learning Disorder (NLD or NVLD) University of Michigan website. Updated November 2012. Accessed September 19, 2017. Quick Facts on Non-Verbal Learning Disorder.

Child-Mind Institute website.

List of related literature:

Ten other children diagnosed with a nonverbal learning disability (NLD) were also recruited into the study.

“Handbook of Neurolinguistics” by Harry A. Whitaker, Brigitte Stemmer
from Handbook of Neurolinguistics
by Harry A. Whitaker, Brigitte Stemmer
Elsevier Science, 1998

Auditory processing disorder in children diagnosed with nonverbal learning disability.

“Auditory Processing Disorders: Assessment, Management, and Treatment” by Donna Geffner, Deborah Ross-Swain
from Auditory Processing Disorders: Assessment, Management, and Treatment
by Donna Geffner, Deborah Ross-Swain
Plural Publishing, Incorporated, 2018

Recognition is made even more difficult because many people with a specific learning disability spend much of their time and energy hiding their disability.

“Adapted Physical Education and Sport” by Joseph P. Winnick
from Adapted Physical Education and Sport
by Joseph P. Winnick
Human Kinetics, 2011

The recognition of gifted students with learning disabilities is difficult because extraordinary intellectual ability and resultant problem-solving strategies may mask the disability, allowing the student to achieve at average levels (precluding referral).

“Handbook of Special Education” by James M. Kauffman, Daniel P. Hallahan
from Handbook of Special Education
by James M. Kauffman, Daniel P. Hallahan
Taylor & Francis, 2011

We worked with students with severe autism, those with below-average cognitive abilities, academically gifted students with attention and hyperactivity challenges, students with Asperger’s syndrome, conduct disorders, oppositional defiant disorders, and many others.

“How to Reach and Teach Children with Challenging Behavior (K-8): Practical, Ready-to-Use Interventions That Work” by Kaye Otten, Jodie Tuttle
from How to Reach and Teach Children with Challenging Behavior (K-8): Practical, Ready-to-Use Interventions That Work
by Kaye Otten, Jodie Tuttle
Wiley, 2010

Guidance on any barriers to learning that a pupil’s physical disability may present should normally be sought from school records, from the pupil and their parents and from any staff, such as TAs, who have worked with them.

“Learning to Teach in the Secondary School: A Companion to School Experience” by Susan Capel, Marilyn Leask, Sarah Younie
from Learning to Teach in the Secondary School: A Companion to School Experience
by Susan Capel, Marilyn Leask, Sarah Younie
Taylor & Francis, 2019

Davis, Boon, Cihak, and Fore (2010) taught three high school students with autism—one of whom had an intellectual disability—to ask general education peers questions about their individual interests and to listen to peers’ responses while maintaining eye contact.

“Encyclopedia of Special Education, Volume 4: A Reference for the Education of Children, Adolescents, and Adults Disabilities and Other Exceptional Individuals” by Cecil R. Reynolds, Kimberly J. Vannest, Elaine Fletcher-Janzen
from Encyclopedia of Special Education, Volume 4: A Reference for the Education of Children, Adolescents, and Adults Disabilities and Other Exceptional Individuals
by Cecil R. Reynolds, Kimberly J. Vannest, Elaine Fletcher-Janzen
Wiley, 2018

Consequently, gifted students with emotional and behavioral disabilities, impairments in hearing and vision, and physical disabilities are generally overlooked or omitted in efforts to operationalize the term twice-exceptional.

“Fundamentals of Gifted Education: Considering Multiple Perspectives” by Carolyn M. Callahan, Holly L. Hertberg-Davis
from Fundamentals of Gifted Education: Considering Multiple Perspectives
by Carolyn M. Callahan, Holly L. Hertberg-Davis
Taylor & Francis, 2017

In the special school surveyed by Alagratnam and his colleagues three-quarters of the children had an additional impairment – severe or profound learning difficulties (27%), epilepsy (22%), physical disabilities (19%) and hearing loss (7%).

“Special Educational Needs, Inclusion and Diversity” by Norah Frederickson
from Special Educational Needs, Inclusion and Diversity
by Norah Frederickson
McGraw-Hill Education, 2009

Since the 1990s, a new group of individuals has been considered as having a learning disability: individuals who are simultaneously gifted.

“Encyclopedia of Disability” by Gary L Albrecht, Sharon L. Snyder, Thomson Gale (Firm), Jerome Bickenbach, David T. Mitchell, Sage Publications, Walton O. Schalick, III
from Encyclopedia of Disability
by Gary L Albrecht, Sharon L. Snyder, et. al.
SAGE Publications, 2006

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  • it’s awkward when you don’t fit all of the symptoms of an already little known learning disability, and especially not the strengths. i’m not detail oriented, because i have adhd too. i don’t necessarily have trouble with the big picture. i do have trouble with abstract, but only in math!
    i do have social problems and low self-esteem. i have always had an overwhelming amount of trouble with math. it’s even gotten me held back. i’ve been told i have a large vocabulary ever since i was a kid. a change in routine can indeed be distressing. i can hyper-verbalize but other times i can barely talk. i am poorly coordinated and still can’t tie my shoes well because it’s physically difficult. i’ve always loved reading but reading comprehension is difficult and that sucks because people love to make fun of that. all of this has made me feel inadequate everyday, leading to anxiety, depression, and perfectionism. if only others who didn’t have it would understand what it can do to your mental health to have a disability that’s rarely acknowledged or accommodated. it can obviously hurt people.
    i hope those with this know that they aren’t alone in this. i can get annoyed at that phrase but just know that you can get through it. there are others like you, even though it doesn’t seem like it. i’ve never met another nvlder in real life. i wish resources on adults with nvld weren’t so hard to find, though…

  • NVLD is often a sort of autism IMO. People with pure NVLD are not socially inept so much and are not “creepy”. I think that many individuals with pervasive developmental disorder are misdiagnosed as having just nonverbal learning disability.

  • That whole “great job ” sarcasm thing just teaches people to be dishonest dicks. People with this disability are simply too kind and pure in their hearts to “get it” when someone’s being a lying asshole.

  • I grew up in the absolute worst imaginable situation for someone with my condition and only self diagnosed when I reached around 28-29 years oldI will be post traumatic for lifeam AM PTSD for lifeI was battered by my mom for the first decade of my life and bullied by my step DAD for the rest of my teensand my sister Nevr EVER left me alone continuously exposing every symptom I tried to hideI had nowhere to go, nowhere to run and I will never be able to bond with people fully for the rest of my lifemy grandad ended my early adulthood by bringing a good friend of hisA welfare employment offce agent into our home and I was bullied for 6 years without even knowing it was happeningeventually I want completely Madtook 6 months to recover and 1 year later I was still having delusions, I completely cracked

  • this has gotten worse over the years for me:/ i even have less friends than i did when i was a CHILD. i’d say critical and abstract skills aren’t bad, sure. that’s never been the main issue for me, except in math. that still gives me lots of trouble. as well as social skills and executive dysfunction. this sucks, to say the least.

  • How did I miss this video?
    In any case, I’m glad I found it now. I’m an adult with NVLD and I honestly found this comforting because I’ve been feeling very alone with my disorder as of late.

  • I got diagnosed four years ago and I hope it gets recognition to help people. I’m 26 and I want everyone to actually get assistance before they hit my age

  • i got diagnosed with nvld a few years ago and now it makes so much sense why i have such messy handwriting, a lack of fine motor skills and hand eye coordination, how i usually take jokes seriously, etc. it has made a rather large impact on my life for such a barely recognized disability

  • Im the only child of six to have it and my family always treated me like I was this useless child. Or they at least made me feel like one and my siblings always underestimate me, thinking im stupid or whatever. It has left deep traces in my heart and every time i think of it. I feel like I want to explode with an emotional burst. The thing is that i struggle to express how i feel without trying to upset my family because i don’t want to be a problem for them and the only person who really understood me past away last month along with my grandpa and i try not to think of it but the past keeps manifesting itself back and i was really, like an really bullied back then. I don’t know how to forgive my siblings because i can’t move forward because i don’t know how to handle unresolved emotions�� I just felt like to share cause sometimes I feel desperate but also that i need actual help and support❤️

  • Hello, I would like to say that it is nice to read the commentary of those who share the same disability as me. Our disability is an issue that is not well known, and there is no one in the limelight who can represent us and bring those of us together to share information. Hopefully more videos like this one are made in the future.

  • For anyone reading this who has NLD, please look into adaptogenic herbs. They have greatly enhanced my ability to cope with this disorder, and to hold down a job and keep up with my responsibilities. Holy basil, rhodiola, astragalus, etc. They will enable you to think a little more clearly and take the edge off so that you can start to clean up your diet and set some goals, which should come next. They don’t fix the actual disorder, but they go a long way toward helping you cope.

    Check out the YouTube channel ‘Vitajing’, as well as ‘Chalice of Immortality’. Start youtubing individual herbs to begin to get a sense for what each one does, and try them one at a time, without taking anything else alongside them. Start with the lowest dose, and give each one a couple days. I hope this helps, it’s been a lifesaver for me.

  • I have NVLD, A.D.D (NOT A.D.H.D!!!!), SPD, Congenital Nystagmus Horizontal Jerk Type, and a mild form of cerebral palsy (thank Thor I don’t need a wheel chair or crutches]. I just graduated college with an art history degree and plan to go to grad school for arts management. Out of all of the disorders I have, NLD was by far the hardest to deal with. With Thor’s protection and Odin’s tough love, I got through the last half of my hardships during college. I can say that finding the gods and goddesses of my ancestors really helped me. I feel that as someone with NLD and SPD, that I am more open to spiritual experiences and I believe that I have a very acute sixth sense. Do other people with NLD share the same experience that they have a heightened sixth sense?

  • My daughter was just diagnosed with NVLD at age 14. My other daughter had Rett’s Syndrome. She passed away in 2011. I am adopted so I don’t know any
    Family history. I know that, one day we will NVLD, ASD’s & Rett’s are all genetic mutations (Rett’s mutation has already been found). First start to a cure!

  • My brother is non-verbal. He has been diagnosed with it since he was born. He has to communicate with me and my mom with his body language and also has to use a communication device. I suggest anyone who has children that are non-verbal and uses a communication device, you should download the app “LAMP”. It is a very helpful app and it really helps children to communicate with their peers at school or at home.

  • This is great, I also have this (NLD), but can only find videos for little children, it is great to see someone my age and is almost mirror image of me, it brought tears to my eyes, also the stuggle of growing up and the long search of finding out what was “wrong” with me.
    Thank you very much for this video, I don’t know you but it seems like you are a great person Abby, and I would love to meet you one day:)

    I know this is your story, so I hope it is okay that I write mine down here, I hope it helps others;

    When I was 6 years old, we began to learn how to read and write, I was slower than the other kids but extremely extrovert with a bundle of energy that I couldn’t contain.
    My teacher thought I had ADHD and/or was autistic.
    She referred my parents to a center where they took IQ tests, turns out my visual IQ was below average and my verbal IQ far above average, even highly intelligent.
    When they showed these tests to my parents, my teacher flat out refused to believe it, no there is no way I was highly intelligent, even though it was the center that she referred parents to. My parents were extremely frustrated but did so much to help me with extra counseling, remedial teaching, and adjustments in school. Primary was a constant struggle with tests, failing things and talk about resitting grades.
    Primary school was frustrating, in any sense when finally I made the test at 12 and it was proved, that indeed I had NLD (or NLVD).
    I thought then, that it was over, until when I was 15 I applied to college (A-levels, they are like pre-university programs in the Netherlands).
    I had top grades and was pretty good in the interview, but they refused me because of NLD. (which legally, I found out after, was not in their right to do so, as I fulfilled the requirements).
    I was frustrated, angry and felt unjustified, and it was a struggle for me to find the motivation to apply to other schools in fear of refusal again.
    Later I did the same course in another college, they accepted me and I was overjoyed.
    Graduated from that course with an A* and send a letter to the college that refused me, saying that they shouldn’t judge people with a learning disability, as with a little extra help, they might bloom further than any oter student.

    Now I am 20 years old, and while it was a relief to find out I see that not many of my friends understand it, I am now in college, and failing also partly there is no help given to me anymore at this age, when searching on the internet I can only find information and tips for little children, not (young) adults like ourselves, I think especially this has caused this video to make such an impact. and I hope in the future there is more that we can do.

    Thank you very much for this video, and I whish you all the best abby!
    (sorry for the long story XD )

    xx Yleine Aerts
    If understood ever want me to make a video about this to raise awareness and help other people with their “journey” I would be more than willing to help.

  • It was a real piss off for me as a kid because of the fact that I was born with Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus. My parents were told I had add and NVLD as a young child. My physique differences caused me a lot of distress as a kid as I was made fun of almost daily.My parents always instilled confidence in me, but never pulled me from the classes or schools I was being bullied at, until I reached the 10th grade and threatened them to drop out of school if they didn’t change where I went to school.
    I then learned to cope by avoiding people and would only tend to cling to people who were in their own mental distress because I felt like they wouldn’t judge me. No matter what school I was at growing up, my outer appearance was always judged firstly. I never got to make real close bonds with children who were healthy mentally and felt like I was always over looked and just medicated for ADD, which it turns out I don’t have. I later in my twenties found out the reason I couldn’t focus was because I needed glasses for a stigmatizm. I would get nauseous when I had to try to focus on anything up close for long periods of time. So I would always be looking up to try to get the sick feeling to go away. I only have a few things off of this list but, because I was diagnosed with this, my family treated me as though my opinion was not really valid, I was never heard out properly and that got me very depressed and angry inside and resented the people who diagnosed me. Also anytime I would go for a new assessment, I would mess around as a kid and not take it seriously because no matter what I did, they were NOT listening to me. My mother was the only one who took me seriously. Because my dad never listened I never had full trust in him. He really messed me up emotionally not ever trying to understand me as a person. If I would use the wrong words in a sentence he would just go with what I said and take it as I was just talking nonsense and get made and shut me up and end the conversation. Never did he try to ask me if I meant something else. He would just take offense to everything and never try to get to the bottom of what I was trying to say. I am bad at math but, everything else in this list I don’t have other then sometimes using the wrong words in a sentence. I am very good at reading people but am scarred from a careless and senseless diagnosis! Thank you America for putting me and others in a box to try to explain the in-explainable. Sometimes we just have difficulties in certain areas, and don’t fall into a certain category!

  • I’m a teacher I believe my son has this. 19 years old. He needs executive functioning training. Social skills training. I need to be a coach. What do I do? Please help. He is failing community college and because of poor social skills he’s hanging out with the dregs of society. No street skills. Longing to be accepted. Making connections with anyone who reaches out to him. No boundaries. He’ll accept anyone into his life. Anxiety childish responses to our boundaries. 19 but acts like a 13 year old. Extended Family doesn’t understand why we don’t allow more freedoms but it’s because we know he can’t handle it. Poor judgment it’s horrible to watch. Lost a good paying part time job because he didn’t understand consequences, he’s impulsive.

  • My stupid school said i had adhd when i was younger. When i was 15(im 16 now) they diagnosed me with nld and that made me feel much better

  • My daughter who is 7 has Language Disorder and now her school thinks she has a learning issue as well. Her reading level jumped up to ’17’ in the grade 2(BC reading guidelines) home reading class program. Her math and Spelling/plus other mental based subjects are weak. She doesn’t know how to ride a bike as well. I taught her but she didn’t enjoy it when the wheels came off. We don’t get letter grades till 4th grade at her school. I’m concerned about HS and what will happen to her confidence if she fail a course. She wouldn’t want to go. The HS here got rid of Letter grades for Gr.8-10. They require students to learn independence and use lockers. ��

  • I’ve never had any one adequately describe what I go through. Honestly am trying to send this to family members in hopes they’ll watch. I didn’t acknowledge my diagnosis until I was 25. I always thought it was bullshit but I think that was every one else gas lighting me.

  • I had this, but was never diagnosed as a kid. The thing is, there’s so little help for LDs like these that few people know about. Even if you do get a diagnosis, it means little. It doesn’t mean that the schools, jobs, or even your own family will do anything to try and understand it and adjust things so that you can actually succeed within your natural capabilities. They just blink real hard a few times, and move on. On one hand, I’m glad to know this about myself, but I’m also feeling like it doesn’t mean much when the only people that try to understand are a handful of professionals that can only work within their own narrow parameters. If you try to get a job that will modify their training to help you understand, you find that they meet that kind of idea with hostility. They see you as just wanting someone to hold your hand. In fact, if I had the chance to make up a colloquial name for NVLD, it would be, “the no one wants to hold your hand disorder.” People just don’t care to see that it’s not about hand holding, it’s about filling in the missing pieces of communique that I can’t find for myself.

  • They say that when you have this disorder, you have trouble reading body language. But is it possible that in some people, this manifest as an unawareness of the body language signals you yourself are giving off, instead?

  • Man ever since I we to public school they put me into smaller classes and kids with learning disabilities. All I know is that I have a learning disability but never asked what it was, so I don’t know what mine is. I’m assuming I’m the Emotional one?

  • Christopher Powell my son was diagnosed at the age of 4years 10 months old. He has known for a very long time and was not hit at the of age 25. My son and I have read everything Dr. Rourke has put out. His book left NLD-ers with little hope. It is what you live and suffer that makes you the expert. I am a cancer survivor. It was self determination that has made me want to live beyond what is marked on my chart.

  • As a parent of a child with NVLD, I thought this was a good, thoughtful introduction to the disorder. Factual and accurate. Thanks!

  • All the videos from LD are structurally easy to understand with the narrator guiding you touching upon just the right amount of information. I hope all parents or caretakers who home school take time to watch each video LD publishes, watching all is important because of the similar or the overlap of symptoms, they guide you in an informed direction,testing is so readily available. Parents often don’t want to think their child has a disability, but believe me, your child wants to know

  • I have a nonverbal learning disability and every day is a nightmare. I come from a family that believes in pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and the level of frustration and disappointment from them towards me hurts more than they can ever know.

  • this explains why psychologists thought I was autistic because I did use to talk before but at a certain point I stopped talking completely from ages 3-7 for so many years and now I talk fine. Maybe it wasn’t my right time to talk yet. I still get annoyed that I kept telling my family its a misdiagnosis because growing up I didn’t “act” autistic not even now I act that way, I think maybe I had anxiety which made me stop talking or some sort of nonverbal thing I had. The autism thing always felt like a misdiagnosis to me

  • I was diagnosed with nld as a kid though I haven’t been rediagnosed with it as an adult. I’ve always been a little confused about it because I can’t find much information on it.

  • It might seem psychotic or dumb from the outside but it is the truth of the me, and i am in control and not making up. We truly are audial in our forms of self and brain, we sing our all and world, truthfulness is us and this is me and we!

    Bless you too and thank you, kisses hugs bugs and tugs!

  • This is quite dumb, I dont show all the Signs of NVLD but i do show a few of them. The most obvious one is my poor handwriting slight social awkwardness and emotional problems like anxiety. This scares me i have been searching online for successful adults or people with NVLD and all i find i sob stories. All i find on the web is people in their 50s who failed their whole life because of NVLD. I dont want to be that person.

  • I never wanted to be diagnosed with what I have but I have learned a lot from my disease. It would be very difficult for you to tell me I am not the expert when it is my life and my days that have been shorten. The same goes for your life even though you were diagnosed at a later date. I understand why you don’t understand. I am only comparing behaviors of what is the norm vs what is not. NLD MOM/cancer survivor

  • Wake up people. NLD doesn’t actually exist. Different personalities just have different strengths and weaknesses, and its fact that every person is weak in some areas. Just because someone sucks with math doesn’t mean there is something wrong with them, they just have other strengths. To quote a friend of mine “I’m fluent in over 5 languages, know chemistry, biology, and quantum physics, but I’m socially retarded. Does this mean I have a disorder? No, its who I am! An awkward nerd.” 

    I laugh at this guy claiming people with NLD have trouble grasping the big picture when I’d say that’s a good 95% of the human population. The average person is limited, self centred, and very insular with their thinking. If all it takes is someone to have issues grasping the big picture then I guess all fundamentalist Christians/Muslims/Jews/Mormons etc have severe disabilities. 

  • To chamakh: did you know that people with learning disabilities have above average intelligence? We are actually very smart, depending on where our talents lie. For example, I’m an amazing speller. I could spell executive when I was only 6. Focus on your talents and skills and take comfort in what you can do.

  • My friend has two siblings that have NVLD. Her daughter had asked her: “Is Uncle So and So a forever child?” I was blown away when my friend told me that. I know it’s different for each person but that’s exactly what my friend’s daughter said.

  • Quiet. Sorry to generalize, but you sound like more a part of the problem for we NLD-ers than the solution, since anyone who thinks political affiliation indicates competence is delusional on a staggeringly ignorant level. Lose the caps, and learn online etiquette before spouting whatever political nonsense you’re going on about. Seriously, those caps are an eyesore. That’s not how you emphasize a word online. You typically either italicize it or do *this*, though not as often. So, stop.

  • Speaking of attention to detail, “spatial” is spelled incorrectly. Sorry, couldn’t resist.:) While I don’t know what the hell Linda is blathering on about down there, but she’s annoying me. (I thought we’ve already got past that stupid myth that both Republicans and Democrats have no individual meaning in our political system? That both parties are inept, and the individual representing either party is the *only* factor?) Also, lose the caps. You seriously lack articulation or intuition.

  • We need help. I’m a parent of a nonverbal learning disorder and I’m 5th grade. She has been bullied so much. She was touched inappropriatly by a male classmate. Two years later she was subject to group peer bullying and mislabeling and victimizing. We did therapy to deal with behavioral changes due to the bullying. We are now in a new district and anxiety and anger are coming back. Our former therapist has moved on and we have limited resources. I’m dealing with Dysautomia/POTS. I’m scared for my daughter’s mental health, safety, and future. She needs social skills. What do we do?

  • The expert on NONVERBAL LEARNING DISABILITY is the person with the disorder. You no longer have to think of yourself as disable when you compare and contrast yourself to people with INTENTIONAL BEHAVIORS. From this day moving FORWARD people who have been stigmatized will be viewed as people with extraordinary minds, unique abilities, and multi-level learning styles. GOOGLE NLD RECOGNITION. NLD MOM/cancer survivor

  • as an addition on a note to that is that it gets concrete when I turn my song to stone and make it into the ways of other non-audial people. It is a sad thing indeed…

  • I am with you here my friend, the concreteness is not a part of the self in me! It is a song that I am, the thinking of my brain is a song neverending!

  • So many years…”I fucking have something I know it, despite all the fault you can hold me too there’s something I have and it’s not primarily add, social anxiety or antisocial disorder

  • nldrecognition. wordpress. com

    I wish for you to read this here, it is our world! I have never been so happy as when reading and understanding that!

  • I’m an introvert with nvld, imagine how that works.

    I also have Anxiety, Dyslexia, and depression.

    No, I’m not self diagnosed. I have gone through the proper testing and everything. I could get diagnosed till 2 nd grade though so I just thought I was stupid.

  • I really quite liked a lot of what was said. I found myself surprised with the emphasis on Roark’s work as we have made progress in our understanding of NVLD. Sue Thompson’s Sourcebook is so much more helpful. The NVLD project has been working hard to complete the necessary studies to have the diagnosis included specifically in the DSM. I disagree that NVLD is overdiagnosed, as it is little diagnosed here in The States or deliberately misdiagnosed. It is incredibly unhelpful to cast doubt on a child’s diagnosis, which the speaker strongly advocates. Teachers should not endeavor to cast doubt on a child’s diagnosis in the mind of the child. For all that NVLD individuals aren’t intuitive they do tend to be empathetic and know when others are lying. Having a label, naming the thing that causes so much anxiety helps reduce anxiety so much. Naming it gives power over it. When we received DD’s diagnosis and shared it with her we saw her anxiety cut in half easily and incidence of emotional dysregulation also significantly reduced. We had a complete neuropsychological evaluation and comprehensive testing to arrive at the diagnosis. Not to mention that parents already have a fight on there hands getting teachers to believe NVLD kids have difficulty learning. Telling teachers to doubt the diagnosis is so unethical and inconsiderate. I’d love to see another NVLD talk form a profession who is not so discouraging.

  • I cry watching this video. I’m 44 and am just beginning to understand I’ve had learning disabilities that were never diagnosed until a few months ago. It has had a major effect on my personal and professional experiences my entire life. Abby I’m so proud of your honesty, strength, and self-awareness. I know from experience you must have self-awareness of how you learn, especially in the workplace, where employers and co-workers can be quite cruel to people who do not learn and think the way they do.

  • I have NLD too and i always thought that i was the only one. But after i saw the video and the comments i finally realised that i am not alone. ❤️

  • I got diagnosed with this as a child. I loved to read and write. I sucked at math and was shy… so therefore I have a learning disability. Ugh.

  • Hi, thank you for sharing your story, it helps a lot of people to see that they are not alone.. there is a cure for that? something scientific or something that doctor is checking right now? it’s interesting me because of the technology of today

  • By definition, NLD-sufferers are literal thinkers, hence also concrete thinkers that have difficulty with abstraction and improvisation into new situations. That’s kind of the core asset of the disorder. I’m an adult who got hit with NLD at the age of 25, and I at least know that much from the literature.

  • I have this condition. What causes Non Verbal Learning Disability? Also what kind of jobs can people get with this type of disability?

  • MADE A NEW FB GROUP PAGE SPECIFICALLY CATERED FOR NVLD ADULTS! IT IS CALLED “NVLD 18+ SUPPORT GROUP”! COME JOIN THE PAGE BY SEARCHING THE GROUP NAME ON FB AND MEET OTHER NVLD ADULTS AND THEIR PARTNERS TOO!

  • I have NLD its a pain in the ass but with a LOT of work a good chunk of these things can be “fixed” facial recognition. I taught myself to pick up social cues things like hand eye coordination. In young kids it can be hell the social cues are just like being color blind I feel for kids who have to live with this

  • I want to send a special SHOUT OUT to JESPER MARTENSSON for visiting NLD RECOGNITION. I hope this turns your life around. So what if I am DEMOCRAT. You may be a REPUBLICAN or LIBERTARIAN. The people on the FLIP SIDE OF THE CHART do not wish to fail. I have taken it to a new level and have shown how our highest government officials FOCKED UP INTENTIONALLY. Who are the ones that get a jail cell, an unproductive program, and medicated to death? YOU GUESS IT! NLD MOM/cancer survivor

  • Hi Abby, I’ve noticed you live in the same area as me. I’m in my 30’s and I’d like to get diagnosed properly. What tips do you have?

  • I also have nvld. The first person who tested me told my parents that I was just bored in class. I didn’t get diagnosed till I was 9. I’m glad there are others besides me with it and I’m not alone. Also I got held back in kindergarten because I couldn’t understand what was going on

  • The biggest problem with me is controlling my mouth. I’m actually very good at texting,but sometimes on dates I talk to much and or I can’t hold a interview like date.

  • Women tell me I come off as not confident. It’s all part of my NVLD. I wish people would just except my very kind and caring side of me and except I’m just a little weird in other ways, but they can’t. I sometime just say things I shouldn’t say.

  • Oh my gosh i have both too! I haven’t watched past the intro yet but i wanna tell you i am soo excited to����. I just found out about this with myself i am almost 40 and im realizing i dont know anyone like me, this is such a relief. It makes me feel whole somehow, and hopeful ��ty!

  • I appreciate these publicizings of information about NVLD. I’ve suffered from it my whole life and am now in my 60’s. But I would like to see more research results and information about NVLD regarding adults instead of seeing it almost exclusively focused on children. Yes, understanding children and helping them to deal with this condition is immensely important. But adult lives are important too. We adults can suffer from this condition as much if not more than kids can and could use all the help we can get in understanding and dealing with our NVLD.

  • You don’t have ADHD. I have NVLD and people with NVLD are naturally hyper like myself, but at the same time I’m very organized. Sometime medicine does not work to keep me calm.

  • I recently went to see the “GGZ” (which is the dutch institution for mental medical care) out of frustration with how I was responding to my education or rather not responding to it.

    I thought I’d go there to get to the bottom of what was going on with me and what I could do about my situation of problematic learning in college and inability to produce results on my exams out of lack of understanding the assignments.

    Well I was in for a shitstorm to say the least…

    First of all I think its important for anyone reading this to know that I’ve known I have NVLD since I was about 15, currently I am 22 years old.

    So after having an hour long conversation with a trained psychologist there about my childhood, relationships and all the other substandard stuff you’ll get asked in an intake I was pretty much told (I’m paraphrasing) that even though she genuinely wished she could help me, NVLD was not a listed disorder that would be covered by insurance and that I’ll probably had to figure it out on my own even though she was gonna try her hardest to get me the help I wanted/needed since I should be given help when I reach out for it.

    The psychologist was a really nice lady I have to add but I’m just extremely frustrated that even though I know something is off about my behavior, relations and comprehension. I still wont be able to get any help which just makes me feel even more alone and adds a feeling of hopelessness.

    I just wanted to share my story in case anyone would be able to relate and feel like they’re at least not as alone as they think they are, like I’m feeling right now.

  • NVLD is not an offical diagnosis in the DSM or ICD-10 as of yet. NVLD or NLD was first seen as a comorbidity in childen with Celebral Palsy, where it is fairly common.

  • I have NLD and completely agree. As I’ve gotten older my social skills have improved as has my critical and abstract thinking. I think it’s all about getting the right education and learning how to use your strengths.

  • Seriously, what are you talking about? How are people with NLD “experts” on their own condition any more than someone with mental retardation, paraplegia, or schizophrenia is about theirs? How is that an analogy? I suggest reading Rourke’s essential papers on NLD before saying anything about it and, if you have, learn some articulation, because what you’re saying is nonsensical.

  • How exactly does one go about in remediating their executive functions and working memory? I’ve tried tons and tons of supplements and herbs, exercise, meditation, brain training, learning exercises, etc. Nothing fixes the underlying problem. It never, ever goes away.

  • Thank you for helping to bring awareness to nld. I was diagnosed when I was little and I have trouble putting my experience into words. This video made me cry. Hang in there

  • I have NVLD to, but for me texting feels like a welcome relief from having to read body language, filling in awkward spaces in conversations
    I also find starting conversations vary tricky so for me it’s nice to start with a text. Although I have had the “are they mad or not” problem with texting

  • To those who made this video, I would say it’s pretty spot-on, but realize that some of our biggest problems (even with the social deficits) are our organizational deficits and poor time perception. Especially the way those last two couple together: it makes it impossible to plan out the day or even gage how long it will take to complete one task, let alone schedule an entire day.

  • I’ve been diagnosed with NLD when I was a little kid. I knew what it was about but I never really knew what it really was. So I have been doing some research about the disability and I relate to almost everything especially the social/ emotional part. I was bullied when I was 12 because I changed school and I had a very low self-esteem. Being bullied made me feel insecure and now I’ve a lot of anxiety attacks. People laughed at me because I sucked at math and I never knew what to do or how to react to it. It’s really interesting to see all the aspects on a paper and compare it to my situation. I changed schools so much that I learned how to interact with people it’s still hard but now I’ve found my way. I wish I had more friends but the hardest part is to keep the friends you made. There are a lot of good aspects too for example my handwriting sucks so I never write when someone needs to write in a group, I’m very creative and I love to make stories and write them down also I’m good at playing music. I’m very happy now that I know where most of my problems come from but it doesn’t mean that I don’t have anxiety anymore or that I care way to much what people think of me. I wish I had more support from my family because as a kid they helped me through a lot but when I became a teenager they thought I was old enough to do it by myself but I couldn’t.

    Anyways I just wanted to write that down and it seems like a good place to talk about it:) maybe it helped you x

    Also we nld-ers think wayyyyyy too much

  • I feel that I may have a permanent disability and 21 seeking an assessment for it.

    But searching through the internet of what could be happening to me, has raised several confusions. It seems I have multiple disorders..

    I was only responding to questions, Yes or No when I was in elementary, and my marks were horrible. I could never find friends…On the contrary I was friends with one teacher.

    I would play with rocks underneath the desk, by play..I don’t mean imagining a story…I mean I would line up rocks into patterns.

    I was suspended several times and got into trouble. I recently uncovered a letter from my elementary school describing that I had intense social difficulties and they would request an assessment for me. (But my parents never did it, because they wanted me to be NORMAL) I wanted me to be normal.

    Growing up into high school..I did math and English 4 times, to finally get an 88 in math 12 and 73 in english 12. I had high marks 97 in Law 12, and 100 in physics 11. I constantly involved myself in volunteering, fairs in hopes I can advance my social skills. I also constantly went to work interviews. However without the help of my parents I never got my first job working in retailing.

    I worked in retailing for 1-3 years, temporary, shifting with different positions. The managers never sought to like me or keep me. I was the center of bad attention from my co-workers. They always said in washrooms, ” why I am so weird”

    I thought changing work positions would change the way I am. So I tried for working in a bakery with a referral from my mom’s friend. The manager still hated me…I found that I could engage in conversations with 40 year old women..possibility because they wanted to refer me to their sons.

    now I work as a dealer in the casino, players often complain about “how weird I am” they call me lazy, disinterested, stupid. Cause I’ll sometimes be stuck with not knowing how to calculate 5x 10.

    It has come to a point where I am constantly trying, but I don’t get any improvements. and has come to a point where I wonder what is wrong with me.

    I mean it would make sense..that I have lack of social skills if I didn’t work, I just played infront of the computer playing games all day. It would make sense. But it doesn’t make any sense, if I try really hard at something, and still don’t change.

    I have extraordinary memory skills/typing skills but fails at certain math calculations, clocks, social skills, attention concentration.

    Does anyone know what disorder would fit me

  • Wow crazy, from the impression and nonverbal cues I could figure in the first 55 seconds nope that woman cant be aspergers or on the spectrum. Also the language sounded to lets say “normal”. But real doctors misdiagnosed? Hmm the criteria must have been old or it was bad timing.

  • I have suppressed some of the NVLD in my life and mostly counted myself as weird. I am glad that I watched this and I really resonate with the view. This very well helps me understand myself now and others that I work with. Thank you

  • I plan on asking my doctor about this…I have Turners Syndrome and have researched about it and found the girls tend to have NVLD. I have a feeling I do have it…I’m kinda nervous. I want to be a nurse and I always feel like I’m clumsy and in the way. I can’t drive yet and panic with vague instruction. I hope I can get some help if I do and feel more confident in my future.

  • I have Nvld and ADD. My biggest issues are figuring out if someone is joking and math. It definitely has been a hurdle but I still was able to succeed. Now I’m a year ahead in math, but it took so much hard work. I can relate to her so much!

  • Love to see this disability getting more awareness! I have it and most people don’t know what it is, don’t think it is real/exists, or they ask me why do I have a disability because I look normal. I wish there was someone to have a way to get more awareness out there. I would support it with a percentage of the funds from my crafting business!

  • I have NVLD too. I was diagnosed when I was 17. Looking back on many moments in my life I found many times to be very frustrating including school and social situations. Having poor depth perception was a huge problem for me, it made me clumsy and I would have a difficult time walking I would bump into people at times or walk to closely catching someone’s shoe in front of me. It was embarrassing to say the least. Also with being able to read body language I have found it tough though ad I have gotten older I have invested time in learning about emotional intelligence and I have scored high on my level of emotional intelligence. I have also taken several IQ tests and I fell in the range of having an IQ between 140-150. So if you have NVLD like myself know that I and others are out there looking out for each other. I would be happy to share my experiences with anyone.

  • Finally! I’m pleased to see more investigation & research on this topic. While I’ve read many books on the subject, I am aware that there is almost no public recognition of NVLD. One thing I would stress is that everyone involved in this field focus on the strengths that people with this learning disorder have. Many of the difficulties can be overcome & you can learn to adapt. You might not be able to overcome all of them, ( for my loved one the social interaction & self confidence in social settings is the most difficult obstacle to overcome) but you can still be a happy, successful individual with NVLD.

  • My auditory memory is terrible. In fact, it’s getting worse as I’ve gotten older. Also I’m great at handwriting Writing and English were my strong suit in school as a kid. So I guess I don’t have NLD? A Psychiatrist diagnosed me with it when I was 11. Confusing.

  • She could still be very well on the spectrum. Psychologists mostly focus on the stereotypical manifestations of Autism. Autism is very vast and wide in itself, and everyone is different, meaning each person experiences varying degrees of symptoms,or not many of the traditional symptoms of Autism at all. It also manifests differently in girls and women,. I believe she is on the spectrum, as well as having the learning disability that she does.

  • how do does the subject language arts in school not be impacted by nvld? I mean the grammar should not be an issue beacuse nvlders tend to be good at language vocabulary and rules but reading between the lines in story or literary work understanding metaphors poetry getting into the authors mind and answering questions like why do you think the author wrote this how do you handle that in school?

  • Getting tested and diagnosed with a nonverbal LD has been one of the single most important accomplishment of my young adult life. So many things about my childhood, adolescence and academic career totally made sense following the diagnosis and learning about how my brain works. I love my brain and I would love to be more in touch with others who operate in similar ways or who deal with similar conditions.

  • Hey there mister from the LD video site! have you ever spoken with an NLD who sing his song like the brain does? Who does not alter conform and stretch the words like the others, to make them understand their way?

    I just recently learned to sing my inner song in my writing instead of altering it for others, I dont know if non NLD:ers undertstand the truth and all of it but I will never stop again to be me.

    Just wondering tondering and asking pasking to see if you’ve seen or heard before?

  • I have a 9 year old daughter who is diagnosed with non verbal learning disorder symptoms. How can I help her with her social skills? I live in Dubai.

  • i also have NLD and i have BPD as well which is Borderline Personality Disorder i have high anxiety as well and live in a group home i really want to live on my own but have struggles with money and my diet too hang in there girlfriend it will get better

  • Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank all of you for watching, commenting, encouraging and sharing your stories! I feel so honoured to have had the oppourtunity to share my story!!

  • Also people with NVLD are naturally more attractive. I been told by many women I’m very attractive. When I talk to women on the phone they run after my caring and kind self witch is part of NVLD, but when I go on dates my mouth destroys the date. I dont stop complaining etc. I speak my mind. I ruined dates with people that I was so attracted too.

  • Great video!! I love it. I too am ADHD and NVLD. I too have found that talking and writing are among my strengths. I am contemplating either teaching or becoming a journalist! You are awesome. Thanks for inspiring me.

  • Thanks for this. I have NVLD and ADHD and Anxiety and Aspergers. This really helped me to hear someone struggles like me. I feel so alone a lot of the time.

  • I was diagnosed with NVLD when i was very young, elementary school. Just now excepted it. This is a very painful struggle for me. I’m so glad i found others who might understand.

  • Thanks I was dignosed with nvld,adhd or add too thought have Asburgars too can have both or not too it’s complex not much support in community live here in feel often my own try help educate where I can trying contract with others do as well

  • This is weird to me because I have a not otherwise specified condition that may have come from a brain injury as an infant…and I can relate to some of these things…

  • Seems �� percent normal!! �� unless we all have this… i never know the emotion when people are texting or talking ��. Sometimes home environments can create people feeling “off” or different. But for reals tho… hecka normal!!!!!!!!!?

  • I also have nvld and capd and a form of math dylexia and a language processing disorder i absolutely loved hearing your story loved this video!

  • I meant like nvld is not just a social problems. Wouldnt also impact understanding academics. Especially with subjects that involve visual spatial concepts such as geography. Language arts wich involve understanding the overall big picture of a literary work or reading between the lines ( skills that use the right part of brain) understanding the pragmatics of language such as metaphores etc ( versus grammer and rules which apparently would be nvlders strenth since it is more rule based) i am surprised no nvld videos on you tube have coommented about academic struggles

  • I have been in living hell 55 full years of this since attempting recital 1964 with
    Dance Class four years old and just
    Unable to follow the steps and humiliation was my Mother’s response and that was only the beginning of Hell
    I diagnosed this past year by two non related burp psych tests. My horror is
    Knowing not in DSM ever! So WRONG

  • I have an NVLD too. it’s extremely rare (Weaver Syndrome, 40 people on the planet have it.) I probably have Dyspraxia as well. I was told I was on the Autism Spectrum initially, turns out I am nothing like on the spectrum. Being judged for something I have no control over sucks

  • As a note to it all I want to clear out and say that I dont mean it is not okay to change your voice at certain times! There is always need to make sense and be together with others but it should never be of the expense of the self, it should be in the knowing of the change in the present time it happens!

  • If I was a psychologist, research into this wouldn’t seem like a bad idea…why is there a developmental error in the brain that causes an apparent motor/social deficit

  • This is so beautiful. I couldn’t relate more if I wanted to. Thanks for sharing, Abby. Please keep sharing your story and being awesome. Best of luck on your journey!

  • I have NVLD/ADHD too! I love this video. It is a real diagnosis and a real struggle, I hate that it isnt recognized in the DSM. Im now in school to work with people with disabilities!

  • I have this but I can form sentences and paragraphs just fine it’s just the format of essays I can’t understand. I can ride bikes, skip, jump, catch, and hop. I don’t have trouble making friends, and sometimes I have self-esteem issues but usually I’m pretty happy. I have anxiety but I can protect myself just fine, and facial expression I’m pretty good with. Middle school, I loved it. It’s really only the math that I’m terrible at and some perception stuff.

  • “Great Job” 😉 as experts don’t always get it right. those with NLD *rarely* have concrete thinking & lack of street smarts. it’s those with Asperger’s who do. AS and NLD symptoms can overlap; but these two don’t. in fact, people with NLD often have superior abilities in these areas. if you or a loved one have such symptoms, get evaluated for AS. then please come back and report your Dr’s findings. btw, i’m an adult with NLD and have been a member of a forum for adults with NLD for years.

  • I think my child may have this disability, but the only difference is that he is excellent at math. Its his strongest area even with word problems.?

  • I have ADHD and was later diagnosed with NVLD. I work with ADHD kids as a skills trainer and councilor and your comment about “I was so proud I made my lunch in the morning and then forgot it.” Made me immediately cry. This is so helpful! Thank you!

  • I am 67 yrs old. Found out at 48 yrs I have ADD and NVLD. Had to learn work-arounds on my own. Lots of depression and anxiety. Lots of minimum wage jobs. As an adult I went by intuition in all situations. Finally landed a good paying job at 48 yrs old. Have a house, a fair retirement. Never married, no children. After listening to this I know now why I kept to myself after my work day. Exhausting! Just recuperate that night to start the next day. Wish I could have had a mentor such perfect advise! Absolutely perfect

  • Very helpful video. More helpful than my parents ever were lol. I’m 29 and am finally coming to terms with what I’ve been suffering with my whole life and was hiding in plain site.

  • Hi…I’ve been struggling with this for years. People don’t understand what it’s like. i fight it everyday I have to work extra hard as I am A carpenter. I get soo depressed and I’m even a married man and no one understands the daily battle. I play video games to calm myself. I forget all the time aa d can’t even remember to lock my doors in the house. I need help and I can’t find it. It’s almost like people don’t care. So I pretend that I’m just normal all the time. I don’t like it and I don’t like people because their all about themselves mostly.

  • What he is describing is a learning difficulty not a learning disability. Learning disability is having a low IQ which affects every aspect of a person’s life. Very few people with LD can read, and even so it would have to be in “easy read” and/or accompanied by symbols (pictures.) Very few can hold down a job and/or manage a home without outside help. A person with a true LD would not be able to carry out a complex task, eg drive a car.

  • Oh my gosh! The texting thing hit the nail on the head for me. I have so much trouble inferring tone through a text message! So there have been many times I can’t figure out if people are being sarcastic, saying something jokingly or being genuine.

  • Thank you so much for this. I was diagnosed at 15 years old. I am now 55 years old. It is a struggle everyday, but this is so helpful.

  • I have nld… I struggle not with non verbal movements from other people. Instead I struggle with my own non verbal movements. I’m the introverted version and I don’t mean to stand far away from people and jump in fear when they brush up against me. Learning to drive take driving lessons from a old pro. It will save your life. Learn how not to get lost by using anchor visuals like stores and malls to find your way. Being aware and preparing beforehand for your possible errors is key. And another thing… learn numerology it gives meaning to numbers.

  • Thank you for this video. I am a parent of a son with NVLD. I am grad student at Northeastern Illinois University in the LBS-1 program. In one of my classes, we were encouraged to share with our child’s teacher a video to help understand the NVLD student. I also found a quick fact sheet that I will share with the staff as we begin 2020 Fall Remote learning. I hope this helps the staff to work with my son.