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It seems like healthy eating has become a sport to some and a religion to others Vegetarian, Vegan, Gluten-free, Hormone-free, Pasture-raised, Sugar-free, Low Carb, Good Fats, Bad Fats…. It’s never-ending! Each thing when taken alone can be a helpful guide, but at what point does eating healthy become an obsession? Can the quest for healthy food actually be detrimental to your physical and mental health? In this video I discuss the relatively newly identified eating disorder of Orthorexia that is becoming a bigger problem in our health-obsessed world.. OFF THE COUCH brings you new and interesting Psychology and Mental Health information to help you in your pursuit of wellness, self-help, and life improvement.
A different form of eating disorder Orthorexia nervosa is on the rise due to the impact of social media. It involves a fixation on “clean living” which can quickly spiral into full blown anorexia.. WATCH more of 60 Minutes Australia: https://www.60minutes.com.au. LIKE 60 Minutes Australia on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/60Minutes9. FOLLOW 60 Minutes Australia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/60Mins. FOLLOW 60 Minutes Australia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/60minutes9. For forty years, 60 Minutes have been telling Australians the world’s greatest stories. Tales that changed history, our nation and our lives. Reporters Liz Hayes, Allison Langdon, Tara Brown, Charles Wooley, Liam Bartlett and Tom Steinfort look past the headlines because there is always a bigger picture. Sundays are for 60 Minutes.
More When Healthy Eating Turns Into a Dangerous Obsession FRIDAY, June 14, 2019 When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is an eating order called orthorexia nervosa. When healthy eating turns into a dangerous obsession by Cara Roberts Murez, Healthday Reporter (HealthDay)—When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. FRIDAY, June 14, 2019 (HealthDay News) When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is.
When healthy eating turns into a dangerous obsession Orthorexia nervosa is healthy eating taken to the extreme, where it starts to cause problems for people in. FRIDAY, June 14, 2019 (HealthDay News) When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. READ: 8 Signs of Binge Eating Disorder. An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is an eating order called orthorexia nervosa.
Healthy eating can turn into dangerous obsession, researchers say “Orthorexia is really more than just healthy eating,” said researcher Jennifer Mills. “It’s healthy eating taken to the extrem. FRIDAY, June 14, 2019 (HealthDay News) When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is an eating order called orthorexia nervosa. Though less well-known than anorexia nervosa or bulimia and not as well-documented a new study review says orthorexia can also have serious emotional and physical. When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble.
An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is an eating order called orthorexia nervosa. Though less well-known than anorexia nervosa or bulimia — and not as well-documented — a new study review says orthorexia can also have serious emotional and physical consequences. When Healthy Eating Turns Into a Dangerous Obsession. FRIDAY, June 14, 2019 (HealthDay News) When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is an eating order called orthorexia nervosa.
FRIDAY, June 14, 2019 (HealthDay News) When eating healthy becomes an around-the-clock obsession, it could be a sign of trouble. An extreme preoccupation with clean eating is an eating order called orthorexia nervosa.
List of related literature:
See Steven Bratman, Health Food Junkies: Overcoming the Obsession with Healthful Eating (New York: Broadway Books, 2000), for a discussion of what he calls “orthorexia nervosa,” an eating disorder defined by the “fixation on healthy food.”
Furthermore, these overeating and/or binge episodes can intensify the guilt and shame that accompanies the eating patterns of those with food-addictive behaviors and can “reinforce the erroneous notion that restrictive eating is a solution” (Herrin, 2003, p. 156).
Orthorexia is a newly recognized condition described by Dr. Steven Bratman in his book, Health Food Junkies: Overcoming the Obsession with Healthful Eating.5 Dr. Bratman believes that people who are concerned with healthy eating can become fanatic and obsessive about “good” or “healthy” food.
desire for food.31 Bruch reports that her patients are often terrified at the prospect of taking just one bite of food, lest they never be able to stop.32 (Bulimic anorectics, who binge on enormous quantities of food—sometimes consuming up to 15,000 calories a day33—indeed cannot stop.)
Brian Wansink begins his book Mindless Eating by describing a culture under the hypnotic effect of mass marketers vying to undermine your best eating habits by sabotaging your unconscious mind with subliminal messages to eat and eat and eat.
Over the last several years, there has been increasing interest in a potential new eating disorder for people who display an “obsessional preoccupation with eating ‘healthy foods’” (T. M.
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Using bodybuilders as the sample to show nutrient deficiencies doesn’t tell you anything about clean eating, it tells you about bodybuilders. Come on jeff, do you think we’re stupid? Of course the bodybuilders in the sample would’ve been under eating to get shredded. If nutrients don’t come from whole foods where do they come from?
There is no such thing. Healthiest way to eat an egg is raw. Just the yolk’s, toss the whites or cook em up. Next best soft boiled, or poached, sunny side up is good, worst way scrambled. The thing is to find healthy people like you, and spread the word and love. ABC most likely paid by big business, news companies are run by big business. We need radical change in America. Full of lies.
THANK YOU! Orthorexia is a made up dis-ease! Dr. Berg you have changed my life with your tips and videos, I have lost 32 pounds in 13 weeks on keto. My arthritis is practically gone, my IBS is gone, and my blood sugars have stabilized.
I have recovered from an eating disorder and I wouldn’t recommend anyone to follow a strict diet. The worst thing about this, it’s not only socially acceptable but praised! I’m glad that someone made a video about the issue. Thank you Jeff!
“Clean eating” doesn’t mean “bad tasting”. If you’re creative and know your way around foods, it’s easy to fix healthy meals that work with your diet while tasting good at the same time.
I still think it’s good to include SOME junk food once in a while if you want to enjoy yourself but don’t overdue it. Overall, It really comes down to what’s worth it to you depending on how often you want to include those cheat meals and unhealthy snacks. For example, people who compete would rather completely refrain from those empty calories because that could be the difference between winning or losing. However, if you are just trying to lose some weight it may not be worth completely avoiding foods you enjoy. I think moderation is extremely important and making sure you are full and enjoying your meals while maintaining your goals will make you less likely to try and consume excessive amounts of junk food.
This is very true in my experience. I was 220 pounds, failing at every diet. I’m now down to 160. How did I do it? Everything he says in this video. I eat healthy nourishing foods, veggies, fruits, grass fed protein powder, bone broth, grains, eggs….and watch what I eat, calorie deficit, exercise. But also eating ice cream at night and a cupcake with coffee in the morning before yoga �� hey, it worked for me!
I think it applies to everything we do. In fact, I think I’m obsessed with my mental and physical health that I worry continuously after I know something I do or unconsciously did was a bad thing to my body. What if I get a mental illness by just smelling a bit of gas from whatever like heating a pan, gas burning a plastic, and etc. Moreover, I gotta know whether what I’m doing is healthy or unhealthy. I’m checking every action and food because there is always something wrong and biased about what we are customed to do so in our life. in fact, after some research, i get shocked that what i think good turns out to be bad and affecting me for life. “Ah man, I feel sleepy” or “man I’m losing my hair because of my genetic(true but there was a way to slow it down)” or “I feel tired even after 8 hours of sleep(in fact, this hours of sleep shouldn’t be fixed amount)” and I found the reason why and realized that i have been doing or eating so wrong thinking it was good. It maybe helps me get on track how to live healthy knowing what to avoid, but it gets little anxious and worrying. I don’t even know whether I am the weirdo or society is fundamentally unstable. requires me to use a lot of energy to focus on that continuously, and that might be one of the factors that she in the video and I got obsessed with restriction because we are anxious without it and feel like it’s killing me. OMG I’m just f talking poop. little feel better spit out how I think tho.
I think you might be minimizing something in order to make a point which is well taken BTW but by sidestepping a couple of important issues such as the intense fear, shame, and/or self loathing someone might feel if the deviate from a very clean lifestyle and or style of eating (ie won’t have a spoonful of quinoa because of the keto diet or won’t let any dairy pass their lips because of the paleo diet. It all gets quite extreme.
I think I might be in the early stages… I mean I eat candy, ice cream and whatever sometimes (okay not that much nowadays) but when it comes to “normal” food, I’m really strict about what I’m eating. I hate to eat white pasta (when we have it at school or home and have no options) and I feel anxious if I can’t eat enough vegetables at lunch and dinner. I also don’t like eating things that have added sugar in it
All the media we thought will help us connect or share ideas are actually killing us. Every human is different and most of people are sheep and fall for media.
I’m a firm believer that if you eat good healthy food ( you can make plenty of DELICIOUS food that’s healthy but not super duper clean like a dry ass disgusting chicken breast wit salt and pepper only ) and workout at 150% ( meaning after every workout U wanna die ) you’ll be still in top notch shape while enjoying your diet. Trust me I’ve done all kinds of diets, clean diet is made for ppl who compete or have a shoot etc to be as lean as possible. You can’t stick to a clean diet forever.
For example when I bulk up I love to make beef stew or chicken stew, some salads witg dressings and a whole lotta jasmine rice or sushi rice. I literally eat that 3-4 times a day and I gain plenty of good weight and I workout very hard in the gym and my fat gains stay to the minimum. Last year I gained 30 lbs over the winter, at 6’1 210 lbs I was pretty big strong and had 4 pack ( obviously if you’re natural you won’t keep that 6 pack). Do the same with the cutting phase but I try to use less oils and stuff. Still enjoy my food. Trust me it’s possible just make sure you hit the gym HARD AF or whatever sport you’re doing.
Although I do think the definition of Orthorexia is way too vague. To totally dismiss it is irresponsible. There are people that truely have mental illness symtoms when obsessing over healthy eating.
Give diet advice when you’re over 35. Anyone under that has no idea what garbage food does to your body. When you’re young your metabolism can chew up the crap you don’t have the self control to stop yourself from eating.
I’m lucky that a lot of processed and junk foods cause bad reactions for When i tried clean eating and intermediate fasting I developed an Ed and still struggle with it. But now my diet is more balanced I mostly eat clean but I enjoy baked sweets and French fries. I’m be we giving it up because It makes me happy. I try and make them myself or limit how much and how often. I also exercise lightly often. Just live guys and enjoy food.
Like most people, when I first got into fitness, it seemed everywhere I turned all I would hear was that I needed to eat cleaner (and cleaner, and cleaner) if I wanted better results. Wanting to be the best version of myself that I could be, I followed this advice for years, obsessing over eating meals at “exactly” the right time and with the “perfect” combination of foods. I started to avoid going out with friends because I might “miss a meal” and even missed out on many special occasions because of my diet. Over the last decade or so, with all the learning I have done, I’ve come to realize that most of this was totally unnecessary and likely holding me back in many ways. Hopefully this video will shed some light on a science-based approach to dieting that will help some of you get on a more balanced and sustainable track. As always, feel free to let me know what you think in the comments! Peace!
No one is saying that veganism is an eating disorder in and of itself. But it’s very easy for your eating disorder to take over and twist any choices you make with food for any reason into an obsessive need and rule. That’s what the blonde was talking about.
Yeah, I do. And it saved me from depression, pmdd and body dysphoria. all my damned cells are badly in love with my so called issue and I couldn’t be happier. orthorexia is bae. praise orthorexia, the best thing I did to myself.
That’s nonsense! If you’re eating healthy, you’ll not get sick, or die from “eating healthy”; if you eat junk food, you’d get sick, and could die earlier.
i think the people who nothing about orthorexia and eating disorders should maybe keep their comments to themselves. veganism is and isnt the problem. a vegan diet can be great ONLY IF it is done for health and ethicle reasons. she was doing it as a control thing, a label and a way of restricting certain foods. it doesnt matter what diet it is, its the eating disorder itself. ive been vegan, paleo, keto, vego ect. all are healthy in their own way and you can consume enough calories on all diets. its when it becomes an obsessive habit that it turns bad.
This disease is slowly killing several members of my family. My 7 year old daughter is now stronger than my 13 year old nephew. Several members of the family have been hospitalized, each time they cut more and more foods to try to figure out what foods are killing them, but they cant see its the fact that they’re down to basically eating only salads, and only drinking water. My (once) growing nephew is restricted from eating gluten, dairy, rice, sugar, egg, soy, processed foods, non-organic foods, anything with any preservatives, anything with food coloring, oil that’s not extra virgin olive oil, the list goes on much longer than I can remember. I’m not allowed to feed him anything other than bottled water, even the fresh spinach I buy is too toxic to feed him.
Oh man I’ve got it bad! I believe so much in good food that I raise grass fed beef and grow my own veggies! Guess I need to make my funeral plans now ������
Scare of gluten? Oh gosh, if you think that is a sustance that is non-healthy, you are ignorant. They are only following trends but not knowing why they eat that with fundamentals.
WOW! And there is an association called N E * A exists who claims that!! I would guess people in the Org might have Psychorexia:-)).. LMFAO!!! Thanks Dr. Berg, you’ve been doing great, dont loose the grip ever!
I feel like the message is a bit confusing and contradictory, you aren’t really saying that you shouldn’t eat clean, you are saying that you should eat mostly clean while having bad foods in moderation, which isn’t that different from the concept of a cheat day. You say that its bad to label foods as good or bad, at 6:40 you yourself identify good and bad foods. And at 9:34 your description of what you should eat sounds like most peoples definition of clean eating.
Excluding bad food vs Eating more good food still requires you define what good and bad food are.
This vid is complete clickbait. A simple google search shows orthoexia nervosa is not defined by over exercise. It’s about having an obsession on food quality and purity to the point it causes stress and anxiety. It has nothing to do with “exercising too much”. It’s true you need have days when you rest though. This vid makes it sound like eating healthy and exercising are bad! Smh
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Omg I have this disorder. I don’t allow myself to eat over 1000 calories a day and I have to be healthy. I can’t go out to dinner. Ever. I get to nervous. What should I do?
Brown rice is worse than white in some ways because it’s has 80% more arsenic, you can also retrograde type III starches to slow absorbtion. I guess all carbs are bad because they do cause inflammation, but that’s why you have green veggies to counter. But apart from hidden things like that, clean eating I think it’s generally common sense and willpower.
There’s foods I can eat that I know are bad for my body, sugar is one of the worst and causes cancer (feeds malignant and non-malignant tumours 11 x more than it does your native cells) yet I’ll eat most of my simple carbs before and after my training where they’ll be used. I’ll only eat good fats etc. If you tweak and find ‘clean’ food you enjoy, that’s the most important thing otherwise you’ll quickly find it unbearable, you can become depressed, even develop an eating disorder. If you have the willpower and are eating ‘clean’ stuff you enjoy, you’ll have none of those issues. Can still enjoy a treat meal once a week, you’ll feel bloated and probably lethargic afterwards but 1 bad, high calorie meal vs 6 days of ‘clean’ lower calorie meals is good moderation.
Keto (cutting out bread) I mean if it was just bread that’s easily doable, but all carbs but, keto even once fat adapted doesn’t provide strong energy, only low stable energy, so it’s not enjoyable to stay on for over a month.
The problem comes when we are misinformed about healthy foods. Until six months ago when I first read the Gaps diet and then later Nourishing Traditions, I was convinced I needed to avoid all animal fats. I was conviced I would only be healthy if I ate raw vegan (tried it, didn t last more than three days), as there is so much information (books and the internet) on people who healed themselves from serious illnesses by consuming raw plants only. The French government has in one of its 8 health advice points “Eat as many carbohydrates as you want, as long as there is not too much fat or sugar with them”. I recently watched a Ted talk from a researcher who had people do food diaries alongside with blood sugar level testing after every meal: foods that raised blood sugar levels for some did n t raise them at all for others, and the other way around, so it is really complicated it needs to be a trial and error for everyone. My last discovery is Aajonus Vonderplanitz’s raw food diet which includes meat, dairy, fish and egg, not just plants. All my life I have come across literature that stated how bad dairy products are, some people on youtube claim that vegetables are not great for us (often ex vegans turned carnivores). You seem to indicate that an overconsumption of fruit prevents us from loosing weight. The problem is when we don t keep our mind open to new discoveries and persist in a diet which supposedly makes us healthier, but can t see any results, suffer, instead of enjoying life.
What I think about this? Here it is: LMAO! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!:D I literally laughed to this. The food companies with those (mental) health “experts” are a huge absurd!
I found the questions to diagnose this “disorder” laughably illogical and vague. I do think some people can take clean eating to an extreme, especially when they have the wrong information. You see this all the time with vegans and vegetarians for example, they end up with vitamin deficiencies if they don’t do it right. Some people can have a pathological fixation with sticking to a diet to the point that it makes them miserable. So I say there’s some truth to orthorexia, but the official definition and criteria missed the mark.
I don’t believe a single word of this video. Eating clean not only is healthier but prevents a lot of pathologies from which most of Americans are dying for not following a good diet. Junk and processed food are addictive and should rarely be part of your meals.
The title is misleading. It’s isn’t the choice of food that is problematic, it is her mental approach to it. If you stress no amount of healthy eating will help you in the end since stress hits lots of organs directly
So then every doctor, nutritional advisor, healthcare practitioner, scientist, or any other curious human is just suffering from this mental illness of observation, trial and error. The truth is disgusting compared to fiction… Trying a new diet, isolating veriable such as food, is simply the basics of a scientific lifestyle. I think we could greatly benifit from attributes of this earliest nature. Lets keep up the good vibes
eat salads with home made dressings, smoothies, barley grass, homemade food, soups, stews, wholewheat bread, cold brews, oatmeal, fresh fruit THIS IS HEALTHY EATING. she has just a weird ocd…trust me I AM VEGAN and that girl is just UNEDUCATED and possibly ignorant.. and FYI being vegan is a lifestyle not a diet, if you consider it a diet then you should call it PLANT BASED
Honestly this video is GOLD! I was just having a conversation with my father about clean eating and he has ALWAYS said the same things you say in this video when I was younger and I would NEVER listen and then eventuallyy due to clean eating I had an eating disorder. Now years and years later, I learned that balance is key and clean eating is lameee. Enjoy food!
Just became obsessed with ridding that number from my screen so I made comment #667, Lol! Some people are sure obsessed with the success of others. What’s that all about?
Hey Jeff, I was wondering at what point does metabolic rate lower when on a large caloric deficit. I average 1500 calories a day but have hit a wall with my cut. It seems like my weight is actually increasing. I tend to intermittent fast with a large emphasis on protein intake. My goal is to hit a low BF% but can’t seem to get under 13%. If I maintain a caloric deficit for months on end does my metabolic rate decrease down to my average caloric intake? I’m a 170lb male with a good amount of muscle, everything points to my bmr to be around 1880 kcal.
I’m a bit confused how can eating “healthy” be an eating disorder? “Oh no I just can’t stop eating things that are good for my body!!!” maybe the word healthy just was misused but having a healthy diet can never be a dissorder. Most people on Instagram doing fitness suffer more from mental problems such as seeing them self as smaller /fatter than they really are. This leads them to over train which if they STOP eating healthy (meaning not refuelling properly) can than lead to physical problems. My point is basically that eating healthy can never be bad by definition you guys really should have used a different word to described there eating habits
No my obsession is Cigars whiskey and young girls so I guess the exact opposite because all three are killers, but thanks for asking Dr B, but now thanks to your channel I now wrap the girls in bacon and egg yolks. No young girl and cigar jokes people that’s also a given. ����
Dr Berg, I get your sense of humor on this and I agree with your eating plan 100%. However, this disease is about people struggling with IBS or SIBO who have limited their diet to about 3 foods such as chicken, zucchini and rice in an attempt to reduce their symptoms of bloating, diarrhea etc. They are afraid to eat any FODMAPS at all. Limiting the diet starts out as a way to reduce symptoms but is not a fix of the root cause of their condition. I’m not a Dr but I assume this limited diet can cause malnutrition after a period of time. I know ’cause I’ve been there.
‘Rare cases, Death.’ They just can’t resist putting those 3 words in, can they. LOLZ. So, basically we’ve all got it here then. It’s a pandemic. Ha. ❤☺��
Jeff I do enjoy your videos. The growing body of research around insulin resistance runs counter to the simple calories in calories out approach you take. I’d be interested to see a video from you that looks into it.
Satiation vs Glycemic load can both affect body composition. So it isn’t “clean” rather it is lower on the glycemic index which is why people suggest say sweet potatoes vs white potatoes.
Continue from previous post the inside. Its about being healthy inside and outside. About consistency and not just losing weight or gaining muscle without paying attention to the processes required to get there and the effects ( short and long term ) they have on you. Not all things need to be tested through evidence based studies to come to a scientific conclusion. one test or study is not enough to say a theory is scientific truth. We need more metaanalysis studies and more randomized controlled studies that can be reproduced ( most are common sense and some other sources of knowledge or other scientific branches will point you toward the most correct path that serves your best interest and maximizes positive results) I MEAN WOULD YOU POKE A METAL UTENSIL THROUGH AN ELECTRICAL OUTPUT TO TEST IF METAL HAS ELECTRICAL CONDUCTIVITY.( I think not, because we know what will happen )
Also labeling a certain practice or method, lifestyle of eating such as clean eating for ” ORTHOREXIA” is an attempt to give a negative reinforcement and lifestyle shaming on a preventive eating or /excluding certain foods on diet because of certain health conditions such as ( gastritis, IBS, DIVERTICULOSIS ETC) ( THIS SAID PROCESSED FOODS ARE KNOWN TO CAUSE THIS AND MORE AILMENTS). ORTHOREXIA is not an obsession such as ANOREXIA or BULIMIA OR ANXOREXIA NERVOSIA when the end result improves your health and does no harm to self or other directly or indirectly. To misinform and attempt to confuse others, subscribers and the public is malicious and deceitful. Please feel free to comment. Have a Blessed day!:)
Would rather be overweight than super concerned with weight like this. I would rather die in my 70’s than live like this and live an extra 20.
their problem is they’re mentally unstable social media narcissists-the food is secondary. They would have other neurotic attachments other than food
Using bodybuilders as the sample to show nutrient deficiencies doesn’t tell you anything about clean eating, it tells you about bodybuilders. Come on jeff, do you think we’re stupid? Of course the bodybuilders in the sample would’ve been under eating to get shredded. If nutrients don’t come from whole foods where do they come from?
There is no such thing. Healthiest way to eat an egg is raw. Just the yolk’s, toss the whites or cook em up. Next best soft boiled, or poached, sunny side up is good, worst way scrambled. The thing is to find healthy people like you, and spread the word and love. ABC most likely paid by big business, news companies are run by big business. We need radical change in America. Full of lies.
THANK YOU! Orthorexia is a made up dis-ease! Dr. Berg you have changed my life with your tips and videos, I have lost 32 pounds in 13 weeks on keto. My arthritis is practically gone, my IBS is gone, and my blood sugars have stabilized.
I have recovered from an eating disorder and I wouldn’t recommend anyone to follow a strict diet. The worst thing about this, it’s not only socially acceptable but praised!
I’m glad that someone made a video about the issue. Thank you Jeff!
“Clean eating” doesn’t mean “bad tasting”. If you’re creative and know your way around foods, it’s easy to fix healthy meals that work with your diet while tasting good at the same time.
I still think it’s good to include SOME junk food once in a while if you want to enjoy yourself but don’t overdue it. Overall, It really comes down to what’s worth it to you depending on how often you want to include those cheat meals and unhealthy snacks. For example, people who compete would rather completely refrain from those empty calories because that could be the difference between winning or losing. However, if you are just trying to lose some weight it may not be worth completely avoiding foods you enjoy. I think moderation is extremely important and making sure you are full and enjoying your meals while maintaining your goals will make you less likely to try and consume excessive amounts of junk food.
This is very true in my experience. I was 220 pounds, failing at every diet. I’m now down to 160. How did I do it? Everything he says in this video. I eat healthy nourishing foods, veggies, fruits, grass fed protein powder, bone broth, grains, eggs….and watch what I eat, calorie deficit, exercise. But also eating ice cream at night and a cupcake with coffee in the morning before yoga �� hey, it worked for me!
I think it applies to everything we do. In fact, I think I’m obsessed with my mental and physical health that I worry continuously after I know something I do or unconsciously did was a bad thing to my body. What if I get a mental illness by just smelling a bit of gas from whatever like heating a pan, gas burning a plastic, and etc. Moreover, I gotta know whether what I’m doing is healthy or unhealthy. I’m checking every action and food because there is always something wrong and biased about what we are customed to do so in our life. in fact, after some research, i get shocked that what i think good turns out to be bad and affecting me for life. “Ah man, I feel sleepy” or “man I’m losing my hair because of my genetic(true but there was a way to slow it down)” or “I feel tired even after 8 hours of sleep(in fact, this hours of sleep shouldn’t be fixed amount)” and I found the reason why and realized that i have been doing or eating so wrong thinking it was good. It maybe helps me get on track how to live healthy knowing what to avoid, but it gets little anxious and worrying. I don’t even know whether I am the weirdo or society is fundamentally unstable. requires me to use a lot of energy to focus on that continuously, and that might be one of the factors that she in the video and I got obsessed with restriction because we are anxious without it and feel like it’s killing me. OMG I’m just f talking poop. little feel better spit out how I think tho.
I think you might be minimizing something in order to make a point which is well taken BTW but by sidestepping a couple of important issues such as the intense fear, shame, and/or self loathing someone might feel if the deviate from a very clean lifestyle and or style of eating (ie won’t have a spoonful of quinoa because of the keto diet or won’t let any dairy pass their lips because of the paleo diet. It all gets quite extreme.
I think I might be in the early stages… I mean I eat candy, ice cream and whatever sometimes (okay not that much nowadays) but when it comes to “normal” food, I’m really strict about what I’m eating. I hate to eat white pasta (when we have it at school or home and have no options) and I feel anxious if I can’t eat enough vegetables at lunch and dinner. I also don’t like eating things that have added sugar in it
All the media we thought will help us connect or share ideas are actually killing us. Every human is different and most of people are sheep and fall for media.
I’m a firm believer that if you eat good healthy food ( you can make plenty of DELICIOUS food that’s healthy but not super duper clean like a dry ass disgusting chicken breast wit salt and pepper only ) and workout at 150% ( meaning after every workout U wanna die ) you’ll be still in top notch shape while enjoying your diet. Trust me I’ve done all kinds of diets, clean diet is made for ppl who compete or have a shoot etc to be as lean as possible. You can’t stick to a clean diet forever.
For example when I bulk up I love to make beef stew or chicken stew, some salads witg dressings and a whole lotta jasmine rice or sushi rice. I literally eat that 3-4 times a day and I gain plenty of good weight and I workout very hard in the gym and my fat gains stay to the minimum. Last year I gained 30 lbs over the winter, at 6’1 210 lbs I was pretty big strong and had 4 pack ( obviously if you’re natural you won’t keep that 6 pack). Do the same with the cutting phase but I try to use less oils and stuff. Still enjoy my food. Trust me it’s possible just make sure you hit the gym HARD AF or whatever sport you’re doing.
Although I do think the definition of Orthorexia is way too vague. To totally dismiss it is irresponsible. There are people that truely have mental illness symtoms when obsessing over healthy eating.
Give diet advice when you’re over 35. Anyone under that has no idea what garbage food does to your body. When you’re young your metabolism can chew up the crap you don’t have the self control to stop yourself from eating.
I’m lucky that a lot of processed and junk foods cause bad reactions for When i tried clean eating and intermediate fasting I developed an Ed and still struggle with it. But now my diet is more balanced I mostly eat clean but I enjoy baked sweets and French fries. I’m be we giving it up because It makes me happy. I try and make them myself or limit how much and how often. I also exercise lightly often. Just live guys and enjoy food.
Like most people, when I first got into fitness, it seemed everywhere I turned all I would hear was that I needed to eat cleaner (and cleaner, and cleaner) if I wanted better results. Wanting to be the best version of myself that I could be, I followed this advice for years, obsessing over eating meals at “exactly” the right time and with the “perfect” combination of foods. I started to avoid going out with friends because I might “miss a meal” and even missed out on many special occasions because of my diet. Over the last decade or so, with all the learning I have done, I’ve come to realize that most of this was totally unnecessary and likely holding me back in many ways. Hopefully this video will shed some light on a science-based approach to dieting that will help some of you get on a more balanced and sustainable track. As always, feel free to let me know what you think in the comments! Peace!
No one is saying that veganism is an eating disorder in and of itself. But it’s very easy for your eating disorder to take over and twist any choices you make with food for any reason into an obsessive need and rule. That’s what the blonde was talking about.
Yeah, I do. And it saved me from depression, pmdd and body dysphoria. all my damned cells are badly in love with my so called issue and I couldn’t be happier. orthorexia is bae. praise orthorexia, the best thing I did to myself.
That’s nonsense! If you’re eating healthy, you’ll not get sick, or die from “eating healthy”; if you eat junk food, you’d get sick, and could die earlier.
i think the people who nothing about orthorexia and eating disorders should maybe keep their comments to themselves. veganism is and isnt the problem. a vegan diet can be great ONLY IF it is done for health and ethicle reasons. she was doing it as a control thing, a label and a way of restricting certain foods. it doesnt matter what diet it is, its the eating disorder itself. ive been vegan, paleo, keto, vego ect. all are healthy in their own way and you can consume enough calories on all diets. its when it becomes an obsessive habit that it turns bad.
This disease is slowly killing several members of my family. My 7 year old daughter is now stronger than my 13 year old nephew. Several members of the family have been hospitalized, each time they cut more and more foods to try to figure out what foods are killing them, but they cant see its the fact that they’re down to basically eating only salads, and only drinking water.
My (once) growing nephew is restricted from eating gluten, dairy, rice, sugar, egg, soy, processed foods, non-organic foods, anything with any preservatives, anything with food coloring, oil that’s not extra virgin olive oil, the list goes on much longer than I can remember. I’m not allowed to feed him anything other than bottled water, even the fresh spinach I buy is too toxic to feed him.
Oh man I’ve got it bad! I believe so much in good food that I raise grass fed beef and grow my own veggies! Guess I need to make my funeral plans now ������
Scare of gluten? Oh gosh, if you think that is a sustance that is non-healthy, you are ignorant. They are only following trends but not knowing why they eat that with fundamentals.
WOW! And there is an association called N E * A exists who claims that!! I would guess people in the Org might have Psychorexia:-)).. LMFAO!!! Thanks Dr. Berg, you’ve been doing great, dont loose the grip ever!
I feel like the message is a bit confusing and contradictory, you aren’t really saying that you shouldn’t eat clean, you are saying that you should eat mostly clean while having bad foods in moderation, which isn’t that different from the concept of a cheat day. You say that its bad to label foods as good or bad, at 6:40 you yourself identify good and bad foods. And at 9:34 your description of what you should eat sounds like most peoples definition of clean eating.
Excluding bad food vs Eating more good food still requires you define what good and bad food are.
Why is this lady coming to a BBC presentation with a cleavage…?��♀️ if only woman had more class ffs, no one wants to see those
This vid is complete clickbait. A simple google search shows orthoexia nervosa is not defined by over exercise. It’s about having an obsession on food quality and purity to the point it causes stress and anxiety. It has nothing to do with “exercising too much”. It’s true you need have days when you rest though. This vid makes it sound like eating healthy and exercising are bad! Smh
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Omg I have this disorder. I don’t allow myself to eat over 1000 calories a day and I have to be healthy. I can’t go out to dinner. Ever. I get to nervous. What should I do?
Brown rice is worse than white in some ways because it’s has 80% more arsenic, you can also retrograde type III starches to slow absorbtion. I guess all carbs are bad because they do cause inflammation, but that’s why you have green veggies to counter. But apart from hidden things like that, clean eating I think it’s generally common sense and willpower.
There’s foods I can eat that I know are bad for my body, sugar is one of the worst and causes cancer (feeds malignant and non-malignant tumours 11 x more than it does your native cells) yet I’ll eat most of my simple carbs before and after my training where they’ll be used. I’ll only eat good fats etc. If you tweak and find ‘clean’ food you enjoy, that’s the most important thing otherwise you’ll quickly find it unbearable, you can become depressed, even develop an eating disorder. If you have the willpower and are eating ‘clean’ stuff you enjoy, you’ll have none of those issues. Can still enjoy a treat meal once a week, you’ll feel bloated and probably lethargic afterwards but 1 bad, high calorie meal vs 6 days of ‘clean’ lower calorie meals is good moderation.
Keto (cutting out bread) I mean if it was just bread that’s easily doable, but all carbs but, keto even once fat adapted doesn’t provide strong energy, only low stable energy, so it’s not enjoyable to stay on for over a month.
The problem comes when we are misinformed about healthy foods. Until six months ago when I first read the Gaps diet and then later Nourishing Traditions, I was convinced I needed to avoid all animal fats. I was conviced I would only be healthy if I ate raw vegan (tried it, didn t last more than three days), as there is so much information (books and the internet) on people who healed themselves from serious illnesses by consuming raw plants only. The French government has in one of its 8 health advice points “Eat as many carbohydrates as you want, as long as there is not too much fat or sugar with them”. I recently watched a Ted talk from a researcher who had people do food diaries alongside with blood sugar level testing after every meal: foods that raised blood sugar levels for some did n t raise them at all for others, and the other way around, so it is really complicated it needs to be a trial and error for everyone. My last discovery is Aajonus Vonderplanitz’s raw food diet which includes meat, dairy, fish and egg, not just plants. All my life I have come across literature that stated how bad dairy products are, some people on youtube claim that vegetables are not great for us (often ex vegans turned carnivores). You seem to indicate that an overconsumption of fruit prevents us from loosing weight. The problem is when we don t keep our mind open to new discoveries and persist in a diet which supposedly makes us healthier, but can t see any results, suffer, instead of enjoying life.
What I think about this? Here it is: LMAO! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!:D I literally laughed to this. The food companies with those (mental) health “experts” are a huge absurd!
I found the questions to diagnose this “disorder” laughably illogical and vague. I do think some people can take clean eating to an extreme, especially when they have the wrong information. You see this all the time with vegans and vegetarians for example, they end up with vitamin deficiencies if they don’t do it right. Some people can have a pathological fixation with sticking to a diet to the point that it makes them miserable. So I say there’s some truth to orthorexia, but the official definition and criteria missed the mark.
thank you for this video. Sometimes friends says, I am a orthorexic. Because I do’nt eat their cookies and (junk)food. Now I am sure,I am not.
I don’t believe a single word of this video. Eating clean not only is healthier but prevents a lot of pathologies from which most of Americans are dying for not following a good diet. Junk and processed food are addictive and should rarely be part of your meals.
The title is misleading. It’s isn’t the choice of food that is problematic, it is her mental approach to it. If you stress no amount of healthy eating will help you in the end since stress hits lots of organs directly
So then every doctor, nutritional advisor, healthcare practitioner, scientist, or any other curious human is just suffering from this mental illness of observation, trial and error. The truth is disgusting compared to fiction… Trying a new diet, isolating veriable such as food, is simply the basics of a scientific lifestyle. I think we could greatly benifit from attributes of this earliest nature. Lets keep up the good vibes
eat salads with home made dressings, smoothies, barley grass, homemade food, soups, stews, wholewheat bread, cold brews, oatmeal, fresh fruit THIS IS HEALTHY EATING. she has just a weird ocd…trust me I AM VEGAN and that girl is just UNEDUCATED and possibly ignorant.. and FYI being vegan is a lifestyle not a diet, if you consider it a diet then you should call it PLANT BASED
Honestly this video is GOLD! I was just having a conversation with my father about clean eating and he has ALWAYS said the same things you say in this video when I was younger and I would NEVER listen and then eventuallyy due to clean eating I had an eating disorder. Now years and years later, I learned that balance is key and clean eating is lameee. Enjoy food!
Just became obsessed with ridding that number from my screen so I made comment #667, Lol! Some people are sure obsessed with the success of others. What’s that all about?
Hey Jeff, I was wondering at what point does metabolic rate lower when on a large caloric deficit. I average 1500 calories a day but have hit a wall with my cut. It seems like my weight is actually increasing. I tend to intermittent fast with a large emphasis on protein intake. My goal is to hit a low BF% but can’t seem to get under 13%. If I maintain a caloric deficit for months on end does my metabolic rate decrease down to my average caloric intake? I’m a 170lb male with a good amount of muscle, everything points to my bmr to be around 1880 kcal.
I’m a bit confused how can eating “healthy” be an eating disorder? “Oh no I just can’t stop eating things that are good for my body!!!” maybe the word healthy just was misused but having a healthy diet can never be a dissorder. Most people on Instagram doing fitness suffer more from mental problems such as seeing them self as smaller /fatter than they really are. This leads them to over train which if they STOP eating healthy (meaning not refuelling properly) can than lead to physical problems. My point is basically that eating healthy can never be bad by definition you guys really should have used a different word to described there eating habits
No my obsession is Cigars whiskey and young girls so I guess the exact opposite because all three are killers, but thanks for asking Dr B, but now thanks to your channel I now wrap the girls in bacon and egg yolks. No young girl and cigar jokes people that’s also a given. ����
Dr Berg, I get your sense of humor on this and I agree with your eating plan 100%. However, this disease is about people struggling with IBS or SIBO who have limited their diet to about 3 foods such as chicken, zucchini and rice in an attempt to reduce their symptoms of bloating, diarrhea etc. They are afraid to eat any FODMAPS at all. Limiting the diet starts out as a way to reduce symptoms but is not a fix of the root cause of their condition. I’m not a Dr but I assume this limited diet can cause malnutrition after a period of time. I know ’cause I’ve been there.
‘Rare cases, Death.’ They just can’t resist putting those 3 words in, can they. LOLZ. So, basically we’ve all got it here then. It’s a pandemic. Ha. ❤☺��
Jeff I do enjoy your videos. The growing body of research around insulin resistance runs counter to the simple calories in calories out approach you take. I’d be interested to see a video from you that looks into it.
Satiation vs Glycemic load can both affect body composition. So it isn’t “clean” rather it is lower on the glycemic index which is why people suggest say sweet potatoes vs white potatoes.
Continue from previous post the inside. Its about being healthy inside and outside. About consistency and not just losing weight or gaining muscle without paying attention to the processes required to get there and the effects ( short and long term ) they have on you. Not all things need to be tested through evidence based studies to come to a scientific conclusion. one test or study is not enough to say a theory is scientific truth. We need more metaanalysis studies and more randomized controlled studies that can be reproduced ( most are common sense and some other sources of knowledge or other scientific branches will point you toward the most correct path that serves your best interest and maximizes positive results) I MEAN WOULD YOU POKE A METAL UTENSIL THROUGH AN ELECTRICAL OUTPUT TO TEST IF METAL HAS ELECTRICAL CONDUCTIVITY.( I think not, because we know what will happen )
Also labeling a certain practice or method, lifestyle of eating such as clean eating for ” ORTHOREXIA” is an attempt to give a negative reinforcement and lifestyle shaming on a preventive eating or /excluding certain foods on diet because of certain health conditions such as ( gastritis, IBS, DIVERTICULOSIS ETC) ( THIS SAID PROCESSED FOODS ARE KNOWN TO CAUSE THIS AND MORE AILMENTS). ORTHOREXIA is not an obsession such as ANOREXIA or BULIMIA OR ANXOREXIA NERVOSIA when the end result improves your health and does no harm to self or other directly or indirectly. To misinform and attempt to confuse others, subscribers and the public is malicious and deceitful. Please feel free to comment. Have a Blessed day!:)
People in afrika are dieing out of hunger and u dummy are towing away perfectly good eggs 0.46 oh BECAUSE IT’S NOT THE WAY U WANT IT