The Frightening Gender Gap in Heart Care

 

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According to the analysis of 1.4 million heart attack cases, 4.5 percent of women under 60 died in the hospital, compared to 3 percent of comparable men. The death rates for both genders actually went up from 2004-2011. The findings challenge “the mistaken belief that women are not at risk for heart attack and that it is ‘a man’s disease.’. There’s a gender gap in heart attack care and it’s bad for women Acute pain in a woman’s chest or arms, back, neck, jaw or stomach may be signs of heart attack. (iStock). There is a gender gap in the treatment of heart attacks, the report says Women who suffer heart attacks are dying needlessly because they fail to recognise their symptoms and receive poorer care.

The gap in numeric deaths in 2000 only exists because of the over-85 age group, where many more women than men die. Put another way, when elderly women eventually die, they die of heart disease. There are deadly consequences from the gender gap in heart attack care. There’s long been a belief that heart disease is primary a man’s disease even as. The disparities between the genders were significant.

According to the analysis of 1.4 million heart attack cases, 4.5 percent of women under 60 died in the hospital, compared to 3 percent of comparable men. The death rates for both genders actually went up from 2004-2011. MONDAY, Oct. 26, 2015 (HealthDay News) New research suggests that doctors don’t warn younger women when they’re at risk for heart disease as often as they warn men.

And once younger women suffer a common kind of heart attack, they are less likely to get a common treatment and more likely to die in the hospital. Cardiac Care Gender Gap The report comes less than a month after a separate investigation found that women are more than twice as likely as men to die when hospitalized with the most serious type. Gender issues: Women are nearly twice as likely as men to die in the year following a heart attack, partly because “cardiovascular care has been slow to acknowledge the gender differences in heart disease,” says Noel Bairey Merz, M.D., director of the Barbra Streisand Women’s Heart Center at Cedars-Sinai Heart Institute in Los Angeles.

In January 2016, the European Heart Journal published a comprehensive overview of the cardiac gender gap. In February 2016, an article in Mayo Clinic Proceedings called for focused care in.

List of related literature:

Finally, the portrait focuses on the links of transnational care transfer between a series of nuclear families (Yeates 2005), privileging the experiences of heterosexual women with children and overlooking the participation of single women and gay men in the global care chain (Manalansan 2006).

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from Routledge Handbook of Cultural Sociology: 2nd Edition
by Laura Grindstaff, Ming-Cheng M. Lo, John R. Hall
Taylor & Francis, 2018

Focusing on gender diversity and nondiscrimination of women in the health care workforce does not mean the end of men.

“Women's Health Care in Advanced Practice Nursing, Second Edition” by Ivy M. Alexander, PhD, APRN, ANP-BC, FAANP, FAAN, Versie Johnson-Mallard, PhD, ARNP, WHNP-BC, FAANP, Elizabeth Kostas-Polston, PhD, APRN, WHNP-BC, FAANP, Catherine Ingram Fogel, PhD, RNC, FAAN, Nancy Fugate Woods, PhD, RN, FAAN
from Women’s Health Care in Advanced Practice Nursing, Second Edition
by Ivy M. Alexander, PhD, APRN, ANP-BC, FAANP, FAAN, Versie Johnson-Mallard, PhD, ARNP, WHNP-BC, FAANP, et. al.
Springer Publishing Company, 2017

There is evidence of gender discrimination in access to health care.

“Reversed Realities: Gender Hierarchies in Development Thought” by Naila Kabeer
from Reversed Realities: Gender Hierarchies in Development Thought
by Naila Kabeer
Verso, 1994

Janet Currie, “Gender Gaps in Benefit Coverage,” NBER working paper no.

“The Shadow Welfare State: Labor, Business, and the Politics of Health Care in the United States” by Marie Gottschalk
from The Shadow Welfare State: Labor, Business, and the Politics of Health Care in the United States
by Marie Gottschalk
Cornell University Press, 2018

Much of feminist bioethics scholarship has been concerned with revealing how such gender biases structure the overall health care system.

“Encyclopedia of Gender and Society” by Jodi O'Brien
from Encyclopedia of Gender and Society
by Jodi O’Brien
SAGE Publications, 2009

By being aware of that bias and barriers in the health care system and recognizing that something should be done, nurses can help reduce the bias and remove barriers to health for both genders.

“Public Health Nursing Revised Reprint E-Book: Population-Centered Health Care in the Community” by Marcia Stanhope, Jeanette Lancaster
from Public Health Nursing Revised Reprint E-Book: Population-Centered Health Care in the Community
by Marcia Stanhope, Jeanette Lancaster
Elsevier Health Sciences, 2014

The biomedical members of the gender teams of both hospitals consider their own truth claims to be unassailable.

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by Linda Rae Bennett, Sharyn Graham Davies
Taylor & Francis, 2014

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, though, has reported the gender gap is closing.

“Health Promotion and Aging: Practical Applications for Health Professionals” by David Haber, PhD
from Health Promotion and Aging: Practical Applications for Health Professionals
by David Haber, PhD
Springer Publishing Company, 2013

In the workplace it is often women, like developmental biologist Christiane Nusslein-Volhard with her foundation to help female PhD students with children, who are putting in place solutions to structural male bias – a bias which male leaders have overlooked and ignored for decades.

“Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men” by Caroline Criado Perez
from Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men
by Caroline Criado Perez
ABRAMS, 2019

This inclusion provides the opportunity to research a knowledge gap – the impact of gender awareness in such emergencies – and to understand how gender-sensitive responses may progress the political, health and economic recovery.

“Research Handbook on Feminist Engagement with International Law” by Susan Harris Rimmer, Kate Ogg
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  • I found this video because I experienced something uncomfortable at a doctors office today. Not the one who is overseeing my transition but a different one. The office people were so nice and accommodating but the doctor was the one who said something off color. This helped me realize compassion for doctors as well.

  • Bcuz most dr’s have no f*cking idea what they’re doing….. Most raised with daddy’s money…. Just there to collect a check

  • “fun fact”: Bettina Arndt just described the former husband of the family that he murdered by dousing them in petrol as having be “pushed too far”. The mother and three children, two girl and a boy aged under ten were burnt alive be that man she is apologising for…….. Bettina Arndt is a seriously low act.

  • I can’t wait until non-active peddafiles become a protected class. (I mean those who want to but don’t.) Tom Hanks will star in “A Noble Creep”. Liam Hemsworth is the bigoted neighbor who drags him out of his house into the street. Bad Liam, naughty! Huffington Post will give it 5 stars. Hanks will be called brave. Eric Cartman will want to touch himself but will somehow resist the urge. On his OnlyFans channel.

  • If you actually look into this properly you will see the original study uses more appropriate equations. Yes, over 50% of Algerian women get STEM degrees, but far more women go to college than men and therefore you need to control for this. After doing so you find there are gender differences that show men graduate at a higher proportional rate than women. Please look more carefully into studies before you try to invalidate them.

  • OK so we’re really gonna act like evolution didnt define different roles for both sexes, and that evolution didnt favour changes in the brain that improved your performance in your sex role?? are we all fucking retarded???

  • This discrimination definitely goes both ways. Men in the fields of things like Early Childhood Education and Nursing are stigmatized a lot too, just like women in STEM are.

  • So how do you explain the ridiculously low numbers of women enrolled in IT and engineering courses in developed countries? As someone who has worked in IT recruiting, don’t tell me it’s because of sexism in the industry. Not one one female staffer I ever worked with thought it was difficult to enter the field. They all said it was because women simply didn’t choose it.

  • I have never seen this as a paradox.(although it’s good to know that the stats are off.” I though about it and this is how I made sense on it all.

    In countries with greater economic inequalities between genders it’s likely that women that are able to get a good education feel a desire to choose something with as much status as possible and that pays the most. These things are most likely to be found in the traditionally masculine occupations.

    Women from countries with a smaller gap in economic equality between genders, can afford to be more relaxed about their choice. A traditional female occupation will provide enough to get by on and status is not as important.

    That makes it more likely that they will choose an education that they have been socially conditioned to be more interested in.

  • Why?… maybe because if you are honest and truthful to your mentally unstable patients, you will get fired and publicly ridiculed?

  • This video is really misleading. The study hasn’t been debunked at all so why would it be retracted? They essentially ended up replicating the same trend albeit with different ratios. Of course a Gender Studies department would dispute the methodology but they haven’t provided any valid argument to suggest that what they feel was left out could skew that trend.

    The study shows the same phenomenon that the Bureau of Labor Statistics found on the wage gap Men and Women on average make different choices on average. Then of course a feminist organisation tried to debunk it with discrimination as their premise, and then a newer Harvard Study debunked them, finding the Bureau of Labor Statistics study to be well founded.

    The most egalitarian countries data is strong evidence all on their own. Take the situation in Norway, where there are enforced gender quotas and where the work towards gender equality of outcome has gone further than any other. Since their efforts over a 15 year period, the differences of degree choice are the same. But naturally, the idealogical left have blamed it on cultural stereotypes and will continue the attempt to socially engineer outcomes.

    The research on personality also indicates differences on average between men and women, which extrapolates into different decisions. Isn’t diversity a good thing? If theres a diversity of personalities, and a diversity of choices, surely there will be a diversity of outcome.

  • She did a great job! She’s very good at explaining these concepts in a digestible way, I hope to see more talks from her in the future

  • STEM needs to be broken out to have real merit. Medical has more representation but Engineering is lacking. The topic does bring up gender differences. Women are needed.

  • What I am afraid of is being fooled by a trans person. Nowadays you can hardly identify who is a real woman or a real man, very scary when you’re dating. Some of them “pass” and lie through their teeth to make you believe that they were born this way. How about telling the truth so that people can move on with their life and start a family? Very dishonest community!

  • Guyz, without toxicity can someone explain me why there is so much hate for prof.Jordan Peterson… That man is expressing his opinions on lectures and open debates. I dont find anything wrong in his speeches.

  • https://www.genderscilab.org/blog/gender-equality-does-not-equal-gender-neutrality Found the blog post she mentioned near the end of the video, gonna give it a read. Figured I’d provide it for anyone else who wanted to see it. Too bad she forgot to link it in the video description, but she gave enough information to make it an easy Google search, thankfully.

  • People should focus on facing reality and not run away from it. I don’t want to be old, I don’t want to be poor, I want to be attractive. You want to get rid of an organ that regulates your hormones. Yeah that’s not crazy at all. You can believe anything you want just don’t count on people to your delusion. Is almost like religion. Don’t force to believe in Allah or Jesus.

  • I have a degree in theoretical mathematics now, but I started in computer science. I would walk into a classroom where I was the only woman, have 20+ pairs of eyes look up at me like “Alleluia! My future wife.” (Not ALL of the guys, but A LOT of the guys.) There’s no where you can sit without making some guy think you sat there because you want him (unless you know they’re gay or married). There’s nothing you can say without some guy deciding it means you’re flirting with him. It doesn’t matter if you’re not pretty (I did not wear tight clothes, makeup or even comb my hair). One semester I dressed so butch I passed for a guy. That was my best semester in computer science.

    I switched to math where no one’s interested in anything but numbers. I’d prefer and I’d be better at engineering or computer programming, but I’m not going back there.

  • Sorry but you are spreading false information: 
    1)  The 1000+ words correction of the paper is in reality an addition explaining the methodology of the paper more in depth, and a replacement of politically incorrect words.
    2)  The measure used by Stoet and Gaery gauges how many men and women graduate from STEM fields as there were equal numbers of males and females enrolling at the university. They wanted to extrapolate a genuine measure of how many men and women were as motivated as to complete their studies in the field of choice. Most importantly, their measurement actually minimizes the gap. If they used numbers as suggested by the counter-paper, results would not have changed as clearly stated in the 8th paragraph of your article. 
    3)  The gender-studies article considers UNESCO data which does not make a difference between organic and inorganic science. For example, in UNESCO data, Life Science is included in Science. But doing like this, they clearly missed the point of the original article which was to compare female/male participation in inorganic science VS participation in organic science. So the hippies didn’t even compare apples with oranges: they just made a fruit salad. And that is the reason why they didn’t find any correlation. Stoet and Geary instead wanted to focus on inorganic science (like IT or Physics) as it is more subject of controversy. That is the reason why they divided science into things-oriented science and life-oriented science.

    In the end, the conclusion of the original paper still holds true: as men and women are given more choice, men tend to prefer jobs related with things and systems and women tend to prefer people related jobs. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/02/14/stems-ongoing-sex-difference-debate
          =>>>>>>> Jordan Peterson 1 Rebecca Watson 0.

  • You are trying you best here to explain that the data used in this study is false, and also you also implying that well bcs peterson cited these studies that the ppl at unesco and other research groups are biased in some way “third group” thats desparation my friend, and yoi also contradicting yourseld by thinking harvard, a school that employs racial qoutas and have lawsuits against them from asiam americans are a credible unbiased source ������, these things have been replicated, what you are doing is picking on very ambiguous logic to undermine it all bcs it doesnt allign with what you believe. Science Data and facts doesnt work like that my friend ����

  • Whether the study was right or wrong I have one problem with what your saying.
    Jordan is not anti feminist, he only believes some of the ideologies current feminist advocate for is not sensible (particularly Equality of Outcome), in fact he has many female clients who he has help boost their careers. He does believe in equality of opportunity and only said that egalitarian further divides the genders because of the now proven wrong study, WHICH HE LITERALLY SAID HE WASN’T HAPPY ABOUT.
    I’m not a hating on the new discovery but you need to stop trying to slander him because you dislike his views

  • Matthew stanson want some kinda wave gap and his wave gap is overclass to get paid more then underclass

    He Believe dnaism or Geneism or he want to live in gattaca so that not sexist

    He is characters from virshal Novel operation gattaca Brave new World

    He basic Dib from invader zim grow up and still insane don,t Believe supernatural take his Father jobs become Scientist got red pill and watch gattaca at same time

  • Fun comment section. �� I just really don’t get transphobes (as well as homophobes) at all. Why does it matter to you if someone wants to transition? It’s not your body. It’s not hurting you. You just seem so ridiculous getting so worked up over this.

  • Having grown up in India before moving to the US, I can say that there is definitely more of an emphasis on engineering being a field for men in the US. In India, even though people are generally more sexist, they aren’t sexist in the same ways as the US. Studying and mastering subjects is highly encouraged for both boys and girls, and since pretty much all fields are male-dominated, a woman who pursues either physics or law will have to put up with the same workplace environment, and receives the same encouragement for either field from family/teachers. In the US the advent of women into the workplace came after certain fields were established as primarily female or male, so nursing, care work, teaching etc. continue to be encouraged here much more heavily than math/physics for women.

    Since women in India entered the workplace at about the same time that the tech booms came along, they don’t have the same preconceptions that women are not good at spatial things or engineering, and women who study well in any subject are socially rewarded in pretty much the same way. I never thought twice about choosing engineering, and a large part of that is because I grew up in India.

  • Is it because they are human and therefore make mistakes such as misgendering someone, and are afraid that a trans person will report them for accidentally misgendering and they will end up losing their licence?

  • Funny how a lot of comments, or the majority, talk about personal experiences, feelings and strawman fallacies… You know so so so so STEM…

  • I’m a boarder-line baby boomer white male who has worked in IT for 35 years. So in a mansplaining, ok boomer, elitist viewpoint kind of way; my voice is currently only suitable for inane (non sensitive) complements and concerned nods of acknowledgment. And it’s about time too, that I finally got what I deserve because of my colour, age, and sex…….. Nice glasses btw.

  • The guys is an asshole. He has a specific agenda which he drives. He even denies climate change. It’s a bit sad that when I first found him, I thought he made sense.

  • So previous roommate (we had to kick him out) was always a little off. He misused words, flip flopped around the main point in a discussion, changed the meaning of words when it was convenient to him and basically acted like a closeted incel. I later saw him watching Peterson videos and it all made sense ��

  • “The GGGI does not measure opportunity, empowerment, or STEM encouragement.” doesn’t it make the GGGI devoid of possible political, ideological undertones and biases, making it more neutral and reliable?

    Let’s even assume that this paper is wrong and operate not within the academic knowledge, but basic logic. We can all agree that Scandinavia went with gender equality farther than other country. It’s correct to say that on average, women there have it better than women in other places of the world. Again, even assuming that the paper in question failed to pinpoint the actual reason, why are there so few women in STEM there?

    Also, Jordan Peterson did get addicted (or however people would call it) to antidepressants because of a rough time he was going through (his wife diagnosed with a likely terminal cancer). Choosing to contrast it with his message of personal responsibility to make some sort of “gotcha” moment was vile.

  • This theory that endocrinologist are prescribing hormones because it’s profitable is puzzling to me. These are generic substances that are fairly inexpensive in the US, and doctors can specialize in other areas of medicine that are far more profitable.

  • Jordan Peterson: women don’t like STEM
    me: woman who likes STEM. got a degree, three certifications and still ha d to deal with men acting as if I couldn’t handle the job and people acting shocked to even see me at my workplace.

  • He she and it are the ONLY pronouns I am willing to use. Any offence is your own mental problem. It is correct English and given X and Y chromosomes it is also biologically correct. Feelings do NOT change facts…
    As an educator of English for over ten years I am offended by the disregard of facts.

  • I live in Romania, a not really progressive, currently democratic, ex communist country. Gender inequality in social and family settings is quite high, so we would not be considered a truly feminist country in that study, and we do not have programs that try to empower women. Yet, because of the nature of our ex communist regime, income inequality between sexes was the smallest in the EU just a few years ago. There’s little to no discrimination in the workforce because of sex.
    This summer I went to a graduation ceremony for one of our best faculties for informatics, and I was surprised to see the number of girls: between 40 and 50%! So yeah… I’m not really sure that girls are naturally not into “male” fileds

  • Personal theory
    I don’t think women are being discouraged from STEM.
    I think men are being encouraged towards money. STEM pays well. Society says that for a Male wealth makes you attractive, high status and a success.

    If you made housekeeping pay like stem you would get more males in it. A solution to the stem gender gap is to pay stem less. Not going to happen though.

  • ; _ ;

    I wanted to become a scientist / engineer.
    But a lack of money in combination with a chronic illness forced me to drop out. And now I don’t have the resources to go back. Still am deeply in debt.
    It’s so frustrating.

  • we are made in YHWEH S image Male and female the female came forth from the man thats what makes her female and woman for she came from the womb, mother earth didnt say hey Im really male,,she keeps on reproducing as mother earth,,,,sodom and gamorah is what we are talking about here,,,,,,

  • I loved constructing things as a child (lego, plane models) but no one would ever buy me these things. I would only get a chance to play when I visited male friends/when my little brother asked for help. I wonder if I had chosen an engineering degree otherwise. Many people, including teachers, family members and women with PhDs would act surprised when I told them that I want to study/I already study computer science. All of them would mention that it’s a very “manly” subject. I am very lucky that I found female rolemodels who work in STEM. Having someone alike to look up to is very important for children.
    There’re 13% of women in my year. I always feel like I must exceed and prove myself. Impostor syndrome is real.

  • The document mentioned at the end, for those wishing to read it:
    https://www.genderscilab.org/blog/gender-equality-does-not-equal-gender-neutrality
    [or was the lack of a link in the description intentional?? If so, why?]

  • I hope for the day when we stop actively or passively discouraging people from doing the things that they want to do, provided said thing isn’t detrimental to them or those about them.

  • This video is super important. Honestly the Peterson-cited study made me wrongly sympathetic with his take. So thanks Rebecca for the clarification. It’s hard to keep up with all studies that come up:/

  • 7:35, promise I’ll watch the rest of the way. I wanted to be a civil engineer and looked into stem when I was in community college before I just decided to succumb to the millennial affliction. I don’t remember if the Stem program was actually any good though, that’s the strange thing. What I remember is desperately trying to pay my way through on Starbucks wages in a system with well overpriced text books and feeling shitty about performing complex mathematic equations on paper step by step sitting next to guys that were somehow human calculators that I didn’t hate for having penises. Let alone that it’s hard to work a full time job while a community college expects one to devote sixteen hours to studies both in and out of class while having little to no time for enjoying life before menopause comes.

  • I’m in the engineering field and I thoroughly enjoy the material. What’s making me reconsider my career choice is the work environment I have been dealing with. Sexist old rich men that like to yell at each other, make racist comments and treat me like I’m less than because I’m a woman. Unfortunately this will be a reality for me pretty much wherever I go as long as I am associated with the construction industry.

  • Well, I just read the entire gender sci lab article. The thing I was searching for, comparison of gender neutrality between countries was nowhere to be found (excluding external links). The author’s aim seemed aimed at finding holes in GGGI when used as an aggregate instead of some other finer grained measurement. Also in the clear distinction between gender equality vs gender neutrality. But where was the alternate study using these new finer grained criteria between countries? Where was the comparison of gender neutrality between say, Sweden and Iran? (The GGGI comparison between Bangladesh, Thailand, Chile and Mexico is not what I mean) What was mentioned were measurements within the US but not a comparison with how other would be low gender neutrailty countries fared. This is the whole point of the study, and the authors didn’t recreate it using the neutrailty criteria. Moreover, I would say it’s a safe bet to assume that while GGGI does not represent gender neutrality, one can pretty much take a good guess that Iran will, if measured, have a pretty good correlation of GGGI against gender neutrailty. So will Sweden most likely. It would be laughable to assume that gender stereotypes and attitudes are more pronounced in Sweden than in Afghanistan. So I will need that data before casting doubt on the original study. Perhaps I missed it and it’s there? I will concede that I only read through the main article and I didn’t access every single link in the footnotes, but if you have the good stuff, the meat of the data, why not show it in the article front and center?

  • My father a guy who worked as a systems analyst and in IT for many years told me that women’s brains are just “wired differently” and that we’re just “not capable” in STEM fields.

  • But but but…. we should take the Benzo addict at his word when he is saying that it is the women’s fault that they don’t like STEM majors!!!!!!

  • “Even three decades after the end of the Cold War, scholars still find substantial differences in aptitude and professional success between women in capitalist and former state socialist countries. A 2018 study titled “Math, Girls, and Socialism” examined a robust dataset of self-reported academic grades in mathematics together with standardized test scores. Using the former division of Germany as a natural experiment to isolate the historical effects of capitalist versus state socialist education—and controlling for differences in economic conditions and teaching styles—the researchers found that teenage girls in the former Eastern part of the country significantly outperformed their western German peers in terms of closing the gender gap with boys.”

    Math, Girls and Socialism. http://ftp.iza.org/dp11532.pdf

  • Te idea that women would want to go to STEM but sexism is idiotic. Before mid 80s women could not become priests in Finland. Even after that there was wide spread discrimination and some male priests refused to work with women and that was tolerated. Still now over 50% of new priests are women. That is because it is work with people that women like.

    Women are over-represented in higher education in all fields but STEM. Even in some fields in STEM like veterinary medicine they are over-represented. I is really so bad that women are not the majority in all fields? If equality achieved when the last man is kicked out of higher ed? Why is that when women are better in something it always is accepted and women just are better but if men are better ins `śomething it has to be some form of discrimination? Even the worst male chauvinist admits women are better in something. Feminists really cannot admit that of men.

    Ironically now women have started to complain unavailability of suitable men as husbands as women want a husband that makes more than they do.

    Anyone who has observed boys and girls know that boys are more interested in technical stuff. Just look at how they can recognize various card at age three or so, Girls wouldn’t care less. In one year in the US there were 43 small children who had found an gun and injured or killed themselves or someone else. 40 of those were boys.The biological roles are hard wired. That does not mean there are no exceptions, we all are individuals. It also does not mean one could not be trained to a different field but when you are free to choose you do not want to. I statistics the dominant things dominate and exceptions are just noise.

  • this algeria mistake change absolutely nothing 67 country tested you can check the study https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323197652_The_Gender-Equality_Paradox_in_Science_Technology_Engineering_and_Mathematics_Education

  • My engineering degree had an approximately 50:50 gender ratio and I never experienced any uneven treatment at university, or thought to look for it. The workplace has been entirely different though; hostile comments and emotional / psychological abuse towards women is unfortunately fairly common in my field (industrial) and can be pretty open and blatant. It does wear you down, even if the pay is good and you’re good at your job. I can understand why people would decide to leave an environment that was that hostile to their presence. I hope that other fields in STEM aren’t at that level.

  • https://www.bls.gov/spotlight/2017/science-technology-engineering-and-mathematics-stem-occupations-past-present-and-future/home.htm

    Folks…his study is flawed…us colleges graduate STEM students by the busload….if he is correct then women would not choose medical (life sciences) nor programming etc. Just because you don’t see women Zuckerbergs…a Male minority…doesn’t mean women don’t go for STEM. He hadn’t reviewed TAM which studies computer usage etc. He’s using generalized generalizations, not data. Have they looked at the federal occupational data.

  • I haven’t watched the video yet but I suspect I have an idea where this is going and it highlights the shallow thinking of anti-feminists that I often point out. When it comes to the gender pay gap, an argument that is often made is that women are paid less on average because they choose lower-paid jobs. Even if that is 100% correct it isn’t it ignores the reason that those choices are made in the first place. The anti-feminist would generally argue that it’s just the way men and women are but that is obviously false, or the numbers of women choosing the higher-paying, traditionally male-dominated careers never would have increased at all. It’s a fact that men and women are encouraged to pursue different paths and that is a big factor in why they do choose different paths. Exactly how big a factor is hard to say, but it is undoubtedly a factor. Here in Australia in the mid 1980s, an ex of mine chose to do the highest level of maths and physics for her last two years of high school and she had to meet with the principal and relevant teachers to confirm her decision. They probably thought that they were doing it for her own good but they were basically discouraging her from taking difficult subjects in classes that would be mostly boys. That’s 35 years ago now but it’s not that long and the idea that all that old tradition and prejudice has just disappeared is naive at best.

  • JP is sorta like DJT, his followers have somehow built a cult around him and attempt to associate “alpha” traits or competence to them when there really is none.

  • Nobody is saying that women who are interested in STEM fields doesnt exist, but this is just one study. There is plenty of evidence that women are less interested in Stems on AVERAGE. Sexism does exist, and it should be talked about, but you cannot replace one social construct with another, if shools are more likely to support men in stem fields, you cannot just apply new social contruct and say that women actualy love STEMS. The truth is complicated. There are biological and sociological factors, I do hate when one side is like everything is social and women are just opressed, and other side is like everything is biological and sexism doesnt exist. To me as non american the US left and right are all clowns.

  • Today, GP’s are terrified so much so that they will refer a patient to a gender clinic so that they are not sued or picketed by trans activists.

  • Okay. I guess this is going to be an awkward compliment comment from a sad place type thing. I’m at a place where I really don’t want to comment on people’s videos. I just want to watch a person’s video. For it to make sense. I’ll give an internal nod. And then move on (or maybe I’ll react emotionally and say “that’s great!!!!” etc). I don’t want to be watching videos where I have to take a deep breath and count to ten log out of my browser, turn my computer off and bury it under six feet of earth so as I don’t reply in a comment… That I just know will be ignored anyway, because someone wouldn’t make a horse sh*t video in the first place if they had any sense of reason and reality about them. So it has been refreshing to watch your videos over the past month or so and just be able to relax basically (except for the subject matter in general I guess like about how sh*t the world is!!!).

    Just on the topic of gender, or I guess ‘gender identity’. I had a notification from sci show psych about a video on the mystery of the colour magenta. It’s not news to me. But it got me thinking. A while back, in a pretty public on-line space, I equated talk about gender identity (non-binary, agender and all the rest of it) with colour perception: I was arguing that maybe using strict rules of causality like gender identity worked the same way as the transfer of momentum of billiard balls on a snooker table using newton’s laws etc (I guess what evolutionary psychologists try to do?.. the more honest ones that is) perhaps wasn’t the best way of approaching gender identity? I got to talking about mixing and matching colours in terms of gender to produce whole new genders like the same way we get whole new colours by mixing them. And maybe gender was in some ways as mysterious as our ability to see colour in the first place. Honestly, I think people at best thought I was being a bit silly. I have looked at all the science and social studies in terms of gender (well not all of them, but used up a substantial part of my life looking at them) I can talk in terms of those dynamics without getting all weird if people want… Indeed I could be too plain for people if needed… And yet I know that approach would be missing well, the colour of life I guess (yes I know “Mary’s room” thought experiment).

    Basically women are fruit (joking).

  • Don’t be offended when people say “women don’t like STEM”, it translates to “most women don’t like STEM”, nobody is trying to tell you what you like or not.
    And you don’t need scientific studies to verify that, it’s pretty obvious. Currently self thaught programmers are getting hired everywhere, no degree needed. Almost no women among them.

  • I was told that many times.
    what do you need, I tell them in pain, busted bones that are obviously busted and the doctors would know I’m trans yet, he and she would say, what do you need, next, go get an HIV test.

    I have been kicked out of the ER and the police where trying to get me medical help after I was run down by a person that was trying to run over me do to they found out I was trans.

  • The doctors held her up and “based on her genitalia” she’s a boy? Seriously? How dare those doctors call her a boy! That’s crazy talk… Oh wait… That’s not crazy. A boy thinking he’s a girl, that’s crazy.

  • Yanno, if this was true I could actually understand it. If care jobs were actually paid well enough to make a decent living (and if I enjoyed that kind of work lol), I would probably absolutely become a kindergarden teacher or something, instead of working in STEM and constantly being sourrounded by sexist colleagues.

  • What nonsense. A man is a man and a women is a women. You can’t change it. Only a small minority are intersex, who can choose. The rest is people playing dress-up.

  • I think encouraging doctors to use the proper pronouns and educating them to feel more confortable with trans people is wonderful. However, an attempt by activists to compel by law every citizen to use these pronouns is scary.

  • I’m not American, but there are a lot of negative stereotypes about The South there so it was really refreshing to see such a great person speaking with that accent, smashing stereotypes.

  • So even tough you feel like the opposite gender, does not change your anatomy. She is obviously not a medical dr. As the great Ben Shapiro always says “ the facts don’t card about your felling”.

  • Everyone is trying to blame physicians, both for the assignment of gender and bias in treatment. There is no evidence that physicians or the health care system is biased. Using correct pronouns is not medical treatment.

  • Exactly, I hear alot of ‘look in between your pants if you’re confused and you’ll realize that your a female.’ I haven’t come out yet, but can imagine my dad saying that to me.

  • The personal problems of Peterson are not for you to make fun of them. I’m not fan of Peterson but this just show your pettiness.
    Anyway, it’s not just Peterson that says that. Even some investigators in Norway came up with the same conclusion than Peterson.
    Women MAKE different choices than men which makes a difference in pay, not “pay gap”. Nowadays, women in occident are the most advantaged in regards to men. Women make up the most students in universities. Women are getting more PhD’s than men. Women are much more protected by law in a divorce and many other advantages.
    I’ve never seen a woman being paid less than a man doing the same job. What I’ve witnessed time and again is that men work longer hours than women. Men work in very heavy and dangerous jobs. Women don’t. Men work in very uncomfortable places under challenging conditions. Women don’t.
    There are many reasons for that: those jobs need strength, endurance, precision and long journeys and many times travel. Most women either cannot do this due to physical differences to men, or don’t want to do it because they prefer to be with their families.
    That is the reality of things. I’m an engineer, and when I went to college, it was open for both, men and women, yet, 98% of engineering students were men. Women chose other careers. Most women crave for better paid jobs, but don’t want to perform the hard ones, which are the ones that pay more.
    Feminism has ruined them.
    I was married for many years. My now ex-wife, having a college education chose not to work, even when I encouraged her to do it. After many years of not having a job, finally she decided to start. Once she started making money, she filed for divorce. She never helped with the home expenses. I was ordered to pay child support and alimony because I was making more money than her. I was working at least 70 to 80 hours a week, and sometimes even more. I still do, and I have always done that. She chose to work 40 or less hours a week, and her pay was of course much lower than mine. They took my salary of 80 hours a week and compared to hers, of 30 hours a week to come up with the payments I had to make. A total disgrace.
    I’m saying all this so everybody understand that the choices that women make are theirs and only theirs. There is no plot against them nor patriarchy. But there is feminism that burden men even when women are the ones making bad choices.

  • Even if one would assume the GGGI to be an improper tool to measure all aspects of gender equality, it would be far fetched to start considering arabic countries (that in the original study had much greater participation of women in stem fields) to be more equal than Scandinavia countries (that had comparatively lower levels).

  • the doctors are so scared of me. many they ask me way too many questions when they realize i’m trans give me weird looks or just.. it’s hard to explain

  • It’s pretty convenient to ignore all the social/political/economic barriers & reasons why women ( or anybody) might be disuaded from pursuing a certain career & just chalk it up to “see, the’re just not interested.”

  • If you’re reading this and you were let down by the medical field (as I have at times), just know that you’re not alone. It’ll be tough, but you will get through this hurdle (and many more) and find your peace. Please hold on…

  • I believe the best think you can do to learn more is to ask the specific individual. Be honest and admit that you don’t understand or are confused and want to understand the individual better. Tell them that they don’t need to answer if they would rather not, and then ask your question. It’s best to have that person answer than to try finding out elsewhere because only that person knows themself best.

  • This whole video is basically a desparate attempt to undermine perterson. The same things you said and worse could be said about the gender pay gap. Its bogus non sense ��������

  • I can totally relate to this. The first doctor I saw to get HRT wanted to give me estrogen. My second doctor is more understanding and wants to give me testosterone but assumes I want to go on full dose, when what I actually want is to start on low dose gel. We’ll see if I can talk him down at our next appointment.

  • There are less women in STEM because it’s toxic af. Academia is second only to the military in sexual harassment. I’m finishing my PhD in Physics right now, and the whole process fucking sucked. I can’t in good faith recommend other women to follow this path.

  • I fuckin love math and cs; I was disgusted and horrified by my cohorts defending forced labor in exchange for affordable tech. The STEM fields are too full of turds to be tolerable

  • When a trans(x) goes to the doctor just be blunt.. I was born a (x) with a thing but I got it removed or added and I got some work here and here… That’s it.. Be clear… Makes it much easier; no confusion; only truth…