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A score of 12 or higher may signal cases of depression, according to Weston. On average, the study found, women who worked 55 hours or more per week scored 11.8, versus 11 among women who worked a standard 35to 40-hour week. There was no difference between men who worked long or standard workweeks.

A score of 12 or higher may signal cases of depression, according to Weston. On average, the study found, women who worked 55 hours or more per week scored 11.8, versus 11 among women who worked a standard 35to 40-hour week. There was no difference between men who worked long or standard workweeks. Now, research helps confirm that women with jobs that demand long hours may be more prone to depression.

Researchers found that compared with women who worked a standard 40-hour week, those who were on the clock 55 hours or more typically reported more depression symptoms. Sometimes, people feel depressed after exercise when they set expectations that are too high or impossible to achieve. Perhaps your feelings of depression are stemming from a heavy mental burden of unrealistic expectations.

Perhaps you’ve set an impractical weight-loss goal and you feel down about not having met it. In fact, employers are losing 27 work days per depressed worker, with two-thirds coming from “presenteeism” when workers are present, but less productive. “There are very clear connections. The cause was said to have been depression caused by overwork. The case generated widespread attention and renewed calls to change the long working hours. The truth about depression: six people speak out It didn’t take long for my mood to lift.

Within 11 weeks I was back at work. working 100 hours a week. I was exhausted and it hit me. Full-time associates are allocated up to 80 hours per year of unpaid time (the equivalent of two work weeks), in addition to paid time off for vacation, personal time, and holidays. Across Sweden, only around 1% of employees work more than 50 hours a week, one of the lowest rates in the OECD, where 13% is the average.

By law, Swedes are given 25 vacation days. These feelings usually fade away within a few days or weeks, depending on the circumstances. But profound sadness that lasts more than two weeks.

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Worse yet, some of us feel like we don’t deserve the time and money if we’re not filling up a 60+ hour workweek with “work stuff.”

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Another problem is that the good feelings about the shorter work week may not last for long as one gets used to the routine.

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But the hours of work are very long—I was only a part-time employee, but my employer put in a 70-hour week, apart from constant expeditions out of hours to buy books— and it is an unhealthy life.

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The truth is, most people find life without work boring, as we see in the tale “A Week of Sundays.”

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True, it can be hard to disappear from work for hours at a time on a regular basis.

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You don’t have to work all the time, and there’s a good chance you’ll be more productive if you take breaks and if you have hobbies and interests that have nothing to do with work.

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That’s why I work seven days a week.

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This is particularly true of the eight hours that you spend on the job every day.

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Long hours also relate to expectations about the sheer amount of work.

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(For precisely the same reason, incidentally, having our weekly time off on days when our family or friends have to work robs us of much of the pleasure of being off work and often involves some sense of waste, not to mention guilt.

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  • They run you in circles to be a conduit of wealth between those who own your means of production and those who own the barracks. The task at hand is incidental, what matters is social stratification achieved through the currents of currency. The whole world is a company town, and consumer culture commoditizes our humanity.

  • I had a mentor who would work for a couple hours, then literally go fishing in the middle of the day for hours, then come back and knock out the problems he was “working on” while fishing. Inspiration happens when you let it happen, not when you force it to happen.

  • The answer is not for everyone to be an entrepreneur. That’s very unrealistic because whose left to do the producing labor? Someone needs to make your product. What we have to do protest and demand the government to establish a law to limit X amount of hours worked per week. I think it should be 30 hrs max but the point is to protest for government regulations for the sake of our health and future America.

  • Learn blender 3d and substance painter and create 3d models to sell on the Unreal engine marketplace. Or learn unreal engine blueprint and sell game skeletons. That’s what I did in my spare time. Earning 300gbp/month for my pocket money with just 2 products so far!

  • I remember a TEDTalks that said that as ppl get older, those who spend more an experiences vs things tend to have higher levels of consciousness and also tend to care less about social validation such as car/house, marriage, procreation, etc.

  • Here’s something you didn’t find out. Australia was the first settlement in the world to grant the eight hour day. Maybe a little research beyond the UK and the US wouldn’t go amiss! see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uME7fRd7Pz4

  • When you’re self-employed you work constantly so giving people an idea of working for the wrong you are working more than you work at home

  • Fucking pseudo-slavery. This is all a bunch of bullshit perpetuated by evil misers to squeeze the life out of us for their own gross wealth.

  • We are not in the 1800s anymore nor are we in 1900s.
    Its so sad people think this is necessary for humans. Its so sad, to be so brainwashed that you think its normal to spend more time with coworkers vs family, to even put labor over your personal time is ridiculous. Wake up, or hurry and die so we can finally change our planet for the good.

  • The guy that invented a 5 day work week hated his family.
    Instead of working 4 days n spend 3 days with his family.

    He said fuck it. Let me go to work 5 days.

  • You speak like a hurt divorced person with a bad experience… I’m divorced too. It is not cool at all, not pleasant experience. And most of divorced people usually very insecure about marriage. I’m not sure why people ask you about your private life. I liked your channel for cool videos. And now all this drama… about marriage…It is your own choice, it is your private life. I would like to be married one day again if this quarantine will ever be finished. And good luck for you to meet a girl who has no desire to have a family, so you can just pursue your own dreams and live for yourself.

  • It’s interesting to see how many people in the comment wine about a mere 8 hour day
    I usually work 10 to 12 hours a day 6 days a week which is fairly low.
    a friend of mine works 12/7

  • This video almost PRAISES ford for the five day work week likebirs not still SLAVERY. Fuck outta here, u wanna jus marginalize human life to the weekend and have us kiss ur ass for it? I hate this world man

  • Some of the greatest technical problem solving I have ever done has happened during a hot shower or chilling outside with a smoke (back when I smoked). But I work for a company which still hangs onto the worst and most outdated productivity measure there is: the billable hour.

  • Bro it’s fools working at warehouses jobs for $11 dollars to put car parts together and standing up 12 hrs that’s slavery and inhuman shiddd. It’s all mental if you know you not go be there your whole life then it works out perfectly fine building your business plan feel me

  • Completely agree and if you get your work done ahead of time, then you just wait for tickets to pop up in the que and just be available. Usually in my spare time I work on Leetcode questions or learn something valuable to keep my skills sharp.

  • My first job featured 12 hour days, unsafe working conditions and abuse. I got out but I still think about those I left behind there. Workers of the world unite.

  • Most people are happier working 20 hours a week, even on jobs they don’t really like. 40 hours/week seems a little excessive for many jobs.

  • My Goal is to become a serial Entrepreneur and have several Companies that I founded. I am still quite far from doing that, however your Videos are helping me rethink how to set tasks / pay people etc, which is also not really taught in Startup Seminars etc etc.
    My Question then becomes: if I want to go to a “I want to pay you X for doing task Y in Z amount of time” and I have the task and the deadline, how do I figure out how much to pay employees for that?
    “I dont care if it takes you 4h or 8, if you do it at home or in the office, as long as you do good work in the allotted time” sounds good, but it kind of makes it hard to tell whether you are overpaying people..
    I guess one solution would be to calculate the profit margin you would want to have for that thing and then offer what you are willing and then raise / lower the offered salary until you get the product you want for the best possible price… but even that sounds complicated.. darn it

    honestly my proposition for a solution kinda sounds like a gig-economy model, like Uber for programmers…

  • You don’t have to use disclaimers— it is slavery. Some people don’t know they are slaves and some people know and don’t mind being a slave. A lot of people have no other options..

  • Talking with a recruiter at Tesla I was told that the shifts were 12 hours long. As a pilot and as a truck driver, I’ve been expected to work 12 hours a day (sometimes more) every day. Some pay overtime some do not, but 12 hours is the norm not an exception. I’ve heard of an 8 hour work day, but I think its just a myth!?

  • Human beings use work as a way to give their lives meaning. If you have nothing to work for you have no reason to exist. Everyone needs goals that they work towards. Barely working and sitting around doing nothing will do little except encourage more obesity (which is already a huge problem) and laziness. Also we will lose even more jobs to 3rd world countries.

  • Any advice for staying focused for hard-to-solve problems? I find if I’m trying to learn a new concept or stuck solving a bug my focus tends to drift, and I easily go on fb/ check my phone, etc. It’s hard to tell how much time I actually spend ‘working’. I guess making the distractions not so convenient might help?

  • “Don’t give the company your best hours”
    Wow I understood this some time ago, I really like my company, but still I spend my best hours of the day educating myself:) I give the company the “good” hours and then the “stupid” hours go for friends, films and chill

  • Isn’t it funny how we as a species keep doing these shitty things to ourselves.

    I mean if most people just decided that 25 hour work weeks should be the norm, that would just become the norm.
    There’s no outside forces, no aliens that are making us do this, it’s us doing this to us. Before the 40 hour work week people were doing 60-80 hours of work. Kids were doing hard labor and still are in many places in the world today.

    It’s incredible that slavery existed not that long ago. People forcing other people to work for nothing. And people were okay with it, thinking it’s just the way things are, like a higher power is forcing you to do this.

    And i guarantee people are just waking up and realizing that this isn’t great either

  • I always knew the 5 /40 work week came from the start of the industrial age when people left the farms for the factories but i always saw it as a over used out dated system since I have existed on planet earth. Many Modern jobs, careers, and educational systems still run on that 5/40 work week but it’s costing them more time and money then it is worth. It’s outdated in many ways but for some reason the CEO’s and companies wont change in changing times. People can’t spend money they don’t have and they can’t use time that does not exist in reality. It’s turned into a system now where companies want 6-7 days per week work from the employee and only want to pay them low wages with lots of mandatory OT so that the tax system can take the OT away from the worker…………….in that way the Politicians and Tax service related jobs get money off your work hours and the company basically gets free OT out of the employee because that paid tax money comes back to them over time in the form of cuts, rebates, federal cut backs, and many other little loop holes.
    When I was a young man and started working out of HS in the late 90’s I would work as much OT as i could stand or was offered……………burnt myself out so bad that I usually only stayed at a job for no more then 2 years time but in that 2 years I worked 4 years worth of work hours almost. I thought every little 1$ I earned was a 1$ closer to achieving goals. I was wrong………………………I knew that if I put in 20 hours OT after 40 hours worked it was 1 1/2 times pay but once I figured in the amount of taxes cut out of my check and the extra cost of gas to drive to work, the cost of extra smokes or food, the extra cost of stress related BS like medication or whatever i needed to sleep after working constant 12-24 hour shifts it just did not add up. I was being taxed, single rate male……………….so that 20 hours of OT or 15 hours of OT I worked came out to less then the 1 1/2 times per hour paid big time less. It was basically like i was working for the company for free. All it was doing was making my paycheck look slightly larger by 200$ per pay period maybe when in reality I had earned 3x or 4x that amount of money overall just in OT pay. So I started to refuse the OT and stuck to my plan. This only makes the companies more angry and bosses really pissed when they offer you OT or extra hours and you tell them that it’s not worth your time or effort and give them a viable % based reason as to why that is. They simply try to blame it on the government and tell the employee that it’s to bad they need you to work it……………………that’s also the other problem with our society and employees, they are to willing to just say yes rather then weigh the options and do the math and respond to the employer with a big fat NO THANK YOU. If more and more people would do that then things might start to change a little. Sadly people wont do that……….they are to afraid of change or to afraid to try again or start over

  • Ah, just as expected. The 8 hour work day is long outdated. It should be 6. Or less. No, it should be less. With all the bullshit you have to do everyday such as commuting for 937 hours a day, most people would be lucky to get 8 hours recreation, even with a 6 hour day

  • People would be much less productive (per hour) if they worked much less. So less time is available than at first thought. It might be better for society to develop happier jobs, rather than more leisure.

  • and then they slap 3 unpaid breaks on top of 8 hours to keep you at work for 90 minutes longer for free when you are mostly busy working anyway. then other 90 minutes commuting… perfect

  • If I was a CEO, I’d work my people 32 hours a week, give them full benefits, and pay an entry level wage of $17.00 an hour.  Bet I’d have a very low turnover rate.

  • For much of human history the chief problem has been producing enough in a society for all to subsist on. Productivity for the essentials of life has increased many times over in the last two centuries The basic needs of people in the West, like food and shelter, are today gotten for relatively little effort. Yet those gains in productivity have not resulted in shorter working hours. Ours is a new problem: that of keeping employed everyone able to work when the labour requirements are low.

  • My work days are 12 hour shifts. I work 3 shifts one week, 4 shifts the next. Many times what I’ll do is work 7 shifts in a row…then I’ll have a solid week off. Other times I’ll stagger my shifts and still end up with 3 to 4 days off in a row. Was an adjustment period to long shifts back to back, but honestly the payoff of long stretches of time off without using vacation time is so worth it. It’s like I get mini vacations throughout the year. Then when planning an actual vacation/trip I can double up on my time away by working my 7 shifts with an expected week off and having a scheduled week (or even two) weeks of vacation time scheduled to start right when I would have been expected to resume my shifts. Been at it for 5 years now and I can’t fathom a consistent 5 day work week with just a measly two day weekend.

  • Seams like a living wage and 6 hour work day would increase profit then. We should push for it. Use Ford as you example of why raising wages works.

  • wow, no mention of the US labor movement, like ford pulled this idea out of his ass, you could’ve at least mentioned what a facist Henry ford was and how he wrote more anti-semetic literature than hitler and sued the US government for blowing up their nazi tank manufacturing plants during WW2, which the British were also part owners of.

  • Josh, hello from London UK bro.
    I’ve been watching a lot of your vids lately lol
    Man you’ve really got it in for these Corporates: ))
    great channel just keep posting the vids and I’ll keep watching m8. I’m going to pause this and go down and grab another beer.:-D

  • I’m a refinery turnaround hand, I work 7 days a week, 13 hours a day, or more if needed, for 6 to 8 weeks at a time. For this I am paid handsomely I’m not ashamed to say.
    I will not waste my time and expertise on an 8 hour day.
    Gotta make hay while the sun is up…. or moon in my case. In between jobs I’ll take a month or maybe two off to live my life, but honestly, I’m always itching to get back to work.

  • Everything that Josh has said here is 100% correct. I’ve spent over 25 years in the IT industry and it was a dream career until the psychopaths (the same ones who sent jobs to India and China, yes China) got in charge. I’ve seen these psychos vomit out one lie after another to their VP, colleagues and underlings with absolutely no remorse at all. I’ve had managers give me the love so that they could use me until a project was done. Then after they got the promotion based off of my work and my work alone, the same psycho fired me as a cost reduction.

    Always have a side hustle without fail and like Josh says, never give any large American company your best hours. Save that for other things that potentially pay off.

    I’ve been burned enough as a young guy to never let that happen to me again. Even when I work a project, I never put the best code into a project if I know the company and people I’m dealing with are less than noble (that’s 95% or more of the people out there now), so if I have something that I could potentially sell, it’s for me only.

    Companies are now trying to make you sign agreement that give them ownership of everything you produce even on off hours. If you run into that, always go into it with having an LLC and a trust created and put the ownership of that code into the LLC and have it documented with proof.

    Never allow yourself to ever be used. Just remember all of the billionaires out there never achieved their wealth honestly. Let let that crap about the Oracle of Omaha and such be jibberish for another Tony Robbins book.

  • This isn’t as clear cut when you get into more thought centric work, like computer programming. There’s generally a ramp up (and I’d say a ramp off, but that happens after work so not relevant) where you beginning you day trying to continue from yesterday, then get into the groove and go a lot faster then normal.

    Generally with thought based work, switching what you do leads to you needing to restart the ramp up process.

    “Are there any positives of this blending of work and leisure times”

    Think about the porn industry if you love your job, it’s a lot better for you. The issue here is if you job interferes with your life and you hate your job.

  • Except this working in retail, police, medical staff (hospital/ambulance), fire, those who work in the building industry, nannies, chefs, those who work in leisure etc. DON’T work just 5 days a week. Many have to work at least 6.

  • Let’s all make our voices heard so that it becomes sooner when companies decide to reduce 40 hours work week down to 30 hours work week.

  • Tip: If your work enforces time tracking, just enter the maximum estimated time spent even if you finished in half that time. Companies try to squeeze as much work out of you in those 40 hours, so you will be “rewarded” with more tasks for finishing early.

  • In my country people are leaving this schedule to work on their own and they do that for 12-14 hours per day, work at night and fix night work in the morning lol.

  • From experience, it all depends on what location you work at. When covid-19 hit I couldn’t find any place hiring so at the time amazon was my last option. The hiring process was simple, the first week was simple, but as time goes by, this job makes you go down a dark path mentally. You couldn’t talk to anyone at all, the hourly rates you need to reach are ridiculous, every single day your job is on the line. ( they WILL try and find any excuse to get rid of you and find another clone with a rod up its ass).

    I could go on for a while talking about how shitty working at Amazon can be, but my point is, at the end of the day it’s not worth it.. even if you believe there’s no other choice, keep looking because literally anything is better than amazon.

  • I think it’s funny all the people saying I work 10+ hours.
    First of all working more hours isn’t something to be proud of. For the most part it means you aren’t in a good paying job.
    Second of all yes you may be working 10 hours or more. But working 10+ hours in 2018 doesn’t even compare to working 10+ hours when these labor disputes were taking place.
    Even the worst minimum wage job is still required to pay overtime and pay for on the job injuries. Back than if you worked more time they didn’t pay overtime and if you got hurt on the job you were just screwed. You literally had no rights and were treated as chattel.

  • Workers worked 8 hours a day during the week and 4 hours on Saturday up to the 1950s. When I entered the workforce in the 1960s the 8 hour day included a 1/2 hour lunch break and two 15 minute coffee breaks.

  • I’m kind of happy that I’m just a warehouse worker, my boss actually works the same hours and around us and we get payed by how much we actually worked (we have a sign it/out system)
    and we did get some extra money for this weeks work (bc we worked like 8 to 6 everyday) so it was nice

  • What? You don’t automatically do your best for your employer every day? If you are worth keeping, you will do your job to the best of your ability no matter where you are.

  • The only info that wasn’t mentioned is how people chose the number 8 hours a day. During the English middle ages, it took a peasant  eight hours to plow one acre of land for his lord. Hence the eight hour workday.

  • When it’s cheaper to pay the fine for breaking the law than it is to comply with the law, um… clearly the fines aren’t high enough; raise them.

  • Been 2 weeks working from home and I made a webapp with 2 sales so far: https://wombol.com

    Felt like I should plug my webapp because my wife got laid off due to the hotel industry dieing out. ( Got 3 daughters I need to support. )

  • I struggle with this EXACT idea. I believe there are intelligent ways to put more hours in and unintelligent ways to put more hours in. Of course, it’s subjective. But, people like Elon Musk never stop working(metaphorically), and the only way to be keep all of their ventures running successfully, they cannot just be wasting time like employees who come in at 8, not doing much and leaving at 5. Of course he’s not the only example to use like Jeff Bezos who is very big on getting his 8 hour sleep and eating breakfast with his kids, however people are different. Just saying Jeff Bezos did not put together the biggest tech company in the world by doing what he does now. It was a progression. People naturally are very not focused on everything and how they are really allocating their energy.

    I believe entrepreneurs are more committed to the self growth process than employees are.

    Also, I believe a lot of people don’t understand the idea of adding value. Companies like people that don’t just do what everyone else is doing, they like people that go above and beyond or think how can they improve certain things etc etc and those are the people that get raises, also people who play politics but that’s a whole other thing lol just don’t be dumb thinking you can do whatever everyone else is doing and expect a raise for being average.

  • Just add my parents, baby boomers, my dad worked 10 of overtime so 50 hours a week, took advantage of 40 hour work week which encouraged himself to work a bit more for that extra time an half. So that’s kind of where it went.
    He was union member in industrial chemical refinement work.
    By the way, video game moders remind me of pro-sumers. Just that I think most of them that fix other game studios buggy shit to turn it into something playable, tend not to get much if any money.

  • I’m going to my hiring event on Wednesday this would be my first job and ain’t nobody else wanna hire me so I might just have to take this opportunity ����

  • Even if your company isn’t using a ticket system, you need a ticket system. Trello is plenty capable. You should also be putting in useful comments in your commits. If your company doesn’t use version control, you need version control. That’s your notes. Companies get lazy just distributing work without tracking requests. Ticketing systems are not optional. Version control is not optional.

  • I’m surprised no one mentioned Sir Ian Kellen. His ancestor fought for labor rights in the mid 1800s and he was credited as the father of the “modern day work week” (5 days work week with weekends off).

    Check his episode on UK Who Do You Think You Are (the show). It’s there.

  • …and then in the 1970s the powers that be proclaimed “an end to Fordism and a new economic landscape”. Funny how they had to implement Michel Foucault’s “deal with the devil” (his own words) to make that landscape bearable.

  • Seems this system has bypassed my industry. I do 12 hour days 5 days a week and when required 8 hours on a Saturday which is most of the time. But we can’t say boo to a goose because we’re contractors and if we kick up about it, our contracts won’t get renewed…. and our union is garbage. And people are complaining about an 8 hour day!???

  • I wish man…., my company cut my salary by 80% and but expects me to work double saying “the company is in hard times”. And when I say work they expect us to work anytime from 10.30am to 11pm or something, I get mails at 1 am too… did I mention on Saturday and Sunday too.

  • The entire obsolete management structure needs to change.

    This whole paying people who don’t actually work (aka management) to watch over other, mostly knowledge based workers that know more than they do, is ridiculous.

    9 to 5 is equally ludicrous. Professional jobs should have a flexible asynchronous model. Many IT workers are literally on the job 24 hours anyway.
    Just as well give them a more flexible schedule. ��

  • Software jobs should not be treated the same as labor jobs. They should pay you by the project completed, not how long you can milk a project before completing it.

  • personally i would much rather have fewer longer work days and in turn get more days off. i find monday to friday makes it somewhat tough to handle dr. and other appointments because most of these also operate within same work hours. most dr. are closed during weekend.

  • Love your videos but come on! Where was the mention of this being instituted in Australia and New Zealand? 1840s and 1850s. I know every history vlog/doco wants to get into why the US is important to appeal to the biggest market but a little mention of the first countries to enact this might be important?

  • OK. as far as it goes, but would be better to look at work hours per day and actual days worked for hunter gatherers, pre modern agricultural societies and so on up to the industrial revolution, which is sort of where this video should start dealing with children in the workplace and then things like company stores, even the criminalisation of people quitting there job, yes people could be jailed for quitting while doing early factory work. The differences between early US factories, early English and early Russian, where the target work forces were very different, and then of course the health effects of factory work where repetition, regimentation and Taylorism lead to depression and suicide. Also a decent look at cycles of rest and intense work being more of a natural rhythm for the human animal rather than grinding constant endurance.

  • True. My dad works as an accountant/receptionist at a DHL warehouse for 16 hours a week but finishes early on the second day and naps for most of the day then goes home half an hour early. JUST LET HIM GO HOME

  • Thank you, I really enjoyed your video lol. Got me laughing. You are right though about Amazon. My experience with them was worse..I had to chase ppl to show me how to do things and they acted like they were too busy. They threw me in a spot without training and already talking about my rates after 2hrs of working there. The least they can do was give me a proper training but they didn’t so I walked out with my head held high.

  • I use to work 4 10’s the 3 days off was so refreshing. But the 10 hr days were tough on family stuff. Your kids r already at practice or whatever they do. Your spouse has to do all the weekday running, which could ware on them. 4 8’s would be awesome. Now if my company would have let us start day at 6am.. then alot of those family issues would not exist. But of course my company wouldn’t ever think of listening to the worker..

  • You work for EVERY.25cents on the dollar that they give you. It’s slave work, modernized with a high pay and benefits. What good are the benefits when you wear and tear your body down at age 40…. or 30…❓No benefits can bring back your body to what it was. The ONLY way it can be stopped, is by the customers that shop at Amazon and demand 1 to 2 days delivery. You ALSO learn NO…… ZERO useful job skills that you can use elsewhere, expect at another warehouse. You can work at Dollar Tree for $8 and with less time, you can move up to Assistant Store Manager and go further up and learned so GOOD job skills that you can use ANYWHERE‼️

  • Kellogg was really into promoting circumcision as well, so I’m dubious of following anything this guy wanted. However, fewer hours of more efficient work is better than longer hours, provided adequate compensation is provided, which should include the cost of living.

  • Unless corporations want to raise our wages, or reduce the costs of their products (utilities included), we need to work 40 hours to pay our bills and buy our things.

  • Personally you need to think before you agree it’s easy to have a YouTube channel Buddy I don’t think he has the qualifications to give you advice

  • Now I work 60 hour work week at Tesla 6 days a week and cant afford a Tesla and drive a ford to work….thank you Tesla real advanced system real progressive Tesla ��

  • Perhaps the professor realizes the limits of his intellect and that’s why he’s chosen to look at the Industrial Revolution from the time ONLY AFTER the many bloody deadly decades long suppression of labor with private and state thuggery yielded to the power of the working class to demand through unions the 40-hour work week. What about the American and European Industrial Revolution’s multitudinous sweat shops that forced their wage slaves, including millions of preadolescent and younger children, to work from dawn until dusk and longer for mere subsistence wages in unspeakably filthy and dangerous factories? Those factories existed as the norm in the Western Industrial World for much more than a century before just a portion of the workforce had the wherewithal to demand humane treatment from their oligarchic “industrialists.” But that widespread worker oppression and endless child exploitation is STILL the norm in all too much of the world BECAUSE your average American wage slave here in America could not care less about what is happening “over there” just as long as the American wage slave can consume themselves to death on cheap labor produced electronic gadgets that keep them as mesmerized as a chicken staring at an extended string stretched out on the ground before it.

  • Seems to be a whole lot of US based communists in these comments demanding they get more pay for less work, but not a single mention of the Bangladeshi children that do 16 hours a day making the cheap clothes and shoes for the righteous American communist. If you have the ability to watch this video, you are not poor and oppressed.

  • You’re completely missing the fact that people work more hours per year now than ever in human history with the exception of the industrial revolution. People used to work 8 hours a day and less than 180 days per year (during planting and harvest). This was true clear up until the invention of the electric lightbulb which meant factory owners could keep people working well past dark when they would normally return home. People are simply trying to recover what they already had.

  • Before people live without internet…games…that’s why there working 8 hours in days…now sad but people still work many hours nowadays becouse boss said

  • Ford’s treatment and compensation to his company employees kept union interference a non issue until Ford workers joined the UAW in 1958. They were the last big three company to get union workers. Ironically, 1957 Was the last time in the 20th century Ford was the top manufacturer among USA manufacturers

  • Working there is very depressing. It’s no contact with anyone, or very little contact. Micromanagement. The people look bad too and depressing.

  • Just remember that Ford didn’t give a crap about his workers’ recreation. Ford knew that tired factory workers are less productive and are a hazard…and don’t have time to use your products. #GreedFTW #CapitalismFTW #GreedIsGood

  • You should feel lucky if you get 8 hr work days. Some people still work 60 hrs a week and if not more. That’s not even including travel to and from work. If you’re on salary, forget about overtime pay too as some companies will get away with that.

  • You so right! Today was my second day but it is horrible! I work where we deal with returned items only so no stowing,picking etc only returned items in the whole warehouse in Vegas! It has AC but in this heat here does not do anything and its not efficient. Some areas are hot the others are cooler.. Where I work is outbound shipments…. man hot and have to lift totes/binds move them by hand, it is crazy!!! My feet, back hurt as hell! The people are like zombies there. Seriously! No one speaks with you they just tuning in and out…! Its a zombieland.:D 95% of the people are blue badge means they are there less than a year…every year there are new group of people:D At this warehouse there are like 300 people at least. Take any other job then amazon! God bless y’all!

  • Would be nice to have this as required learning for everyone going into business school,… or hired into a business,… or raised to run a business. One manager locally, I quote: “I want an employee who does 80 hours of work, in 60 hours a week for 40 hours of pay”.
    Charles Dickens must be rolling in his grave.

  • Well, I like to work for the most part. I like to contribute. But it pisses me off to see other employees that are wasting 8 hours a day posting on instagram and chatting on fb. That makes me sick because if i’m not getting things done my boss is going to threaten me.

  • In France, a full time job is part time for us. And they value their vacations and actually get them. Meanwhile in america, we’re worked to the bone for shit employers that couldn’t give a shit less for us.

  • Respect for this video. I expected standard socialist talking points like it was all unions but instead I got this.

    Earlier Ford should be the model every business aims for. Later with home inspections…less so.

  • They went in lax with security in Rona season I was playing music my third day and brought in my backpack. But Holy shit they do not explain shit at all and barely train you, they intentionally don’t tell your break and lunch hours so that you work instead.
    I was hired in as a seasonal associate about a week ago.
    No manager has came in talked to me about anything, in fact I’m looking for the manager��

    Their so unprofessional it’s not even funny like wtf bro I’ve worked shitty jobs but even the management sucks.

    P.s the employee discount is terrible

  • THE WORKING MAN STORY 5am get up, 5:40 hit the road to southern LA county after a “short” 1 hour and:45 minute commute get to work, work 4 hours… Waste an hour for a state mandated lunch break and back to work for four hours then for the next 2:20 minutes fight your way home through our lovely southern California rush hour traffic that clearly isn’t rushing and you eventually get home at 7p m and now it’s time to make dinner… It is now 8:30 and you have ate, watch maybe a hour of tv or get cleaned up before you know it its time for bed so you can get up and do it again tomorrow, and the the next day and the next and the next and the next repeating this for the next 5 years until one day you just get up and say ” fuck that shit! I ain’t going!” and you quit because you realize the is no shit job no matter what the pay is.

  • towards the end of the group home I lived in I was working 18 hours per day 7 day/55 hours per week for below minimum wage of $5.33 per hour on average. I also received no benefits and eventually had to drop my health insurance because I was paying $460 per month on medical expenses. I was evicted from the group home and had to move elsewhere too far away from my job so I was hired elsewhere with $8.20 per hour pay 5 hours per week which clearly wasn’t enough before they let me go. now I work on YouTube as a video producer for $9 per hour 6 hours per week.

  • We would need to unemploy much of overseas manufacturing, and bring it home to be created cheaper by more robots. Why haven’t we done that yet? Whoever is on robots and hover boards, has really dropped the ball. China doesn’t make better iPhones and t-shirts. They’re just cheaper.

  • I lasted my first 4 nights 10 hour shifts and my first day off I had 3 ice packs all over my body my feet and back hurt like never before by far the worst working experience ever physically and mentally!!!

  • 0:33 “Do it for the company”

    Thats the problem. The company only has loyalty to the money. They are easy to let you go, but ask for ur loyalty to make them richer.

    Fuck capitalism without governance regulations.

  • Lol so let’s give our workers more time off so they can buy our cars in order to go out and do things in which they will have to continue to work in order to pay it off… genius

  • An amazing man, but also a bit sick and twisted. Let not forget he also had ‘moral squads’ that would go around and house check employee’s, making sure they attended church and met HF’s social standards. He also thought he and a few friends could just wander over to the great war and tell them to stop by just talking ‘some sense’. He also disliked the Jewish, except when they worked his books and many consider him instrumental in driving Edsel to his death. For all the wonderful advances he had there were flaws lurking!

  • 14 to 16 6-day weeks, that’s 84 to 96 hours a week. SHEESH!!, and I lament my 80 hour weeks. With P.G.&E., we used to get a weekend off every third week. I was fine working 7-day weeks, but when one got a weekend off, the exhaustion floods in, and inebriation easily follows. Does one decry drinking?, or does one rightly acknowledge overwork?

  • Simon thinks forcing people into labor against there will, slavery, is ok because Britain’s laws said it was. If you don’t believe me go checkout his latest video on top tenz.

  • Now that you know why the typical work day is 8 hours long check out this video and find out about Working for Figurative Peanuts and Literal Beer, the Fascinating Story of Jack the Signal”man”:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EORNBYrBixs

  • 40 hours a week was considered liberating as 60-80 hours of work was the norm.
    Humana re more productive than ever. However, the toll on people has been catastrophic. The birthrate is down, suicide is high, poverty is still high, and the rich are richer than most of us combined.

  • Yep, I literally just quit working at Amazon last Friday on 07/17/20, Charlotte NC CLT 4 hazard pay was taken away a long time ago, they started sending out a lot of VTO’s, on July 4th and it has continued up until I left, I noticed some sinks were disabled due to social distancing (My theory) the breaks are not fair I felt like a prisoner, you will not fire me I will quit first. Oh and I really tried to get some type of answers from HR about by personal concerns and I did not get real response to my questions.

  • Places like this and Walmart push you to get the most out of you and no matter how fast you are they will push for more, if your laughing or smiling you ain’t working. You nailed it with its as close to slavery in modern times mate

  • Unfortunately not everyone followed Ford’s example. My mother worked in a factory near Brooklyn in the early 1930s. She worked 12 hours a day Monday through Friday and 8 hours on Saturday. She was paid $5 a week. The workers joined a union and they ended up working 8 hours a day Monday through Friday and had Saturday and Sunday off. For these reduced hours they received $8 a week. My mother said, “We thought we had died and gone to heaven!” This is why we need unions. We will stop needing unions when corporations finally get a heart from the wizard…in other words never. Just changed jobs because a new company took over where I worked before. They declared the union contract null and void (sneaky lawyers found a loophole). They cut our pay and our hours. One woman had worked there for 20 years and they cut her pay 75 cents an hour and her hours from 40 a week to 32. Another company that needs to visit the wizard!

  • Remote works are so dangerous to each state local economy.
    If corporations are allowed to take advantage of the coronavirus crisis & expand their outsourcing practices, the local economy would get decimated in light speed.
    Just imagine the majority of Silicon Valley employees are allowed to work from home in Alabama or India ��

  • I work for the federal government of the United States. I am required to work 6 days and 56 hours every week. My wages are far inadequate to pay for housing, and other basic needs.

  • some comments here mentioned “shift work” i wonder if this was created to keep companies running longer hours for productivity. certainly great for emergency services being at the ready 24/7 and employing more people. but on the other side of the coin for workers their sleep patterns are all over the place. leisure time is whenever which also means difficulties with getting out and doing anything not to mention normal daily issues such as shopping, taking kids to school, their after school activities etc. might be a good subject for another video��

  • 40 hour work weeks may be a joke, but they’re also REALITY for 95% of the people watching this video. You are incredibly lucky and blessed to be able to do what you do and not have to work a “40 hour work week” anymore. Most people on the planet will NEVER have that opportunity until they retire.

  • Robots will eventually eliminate 90 percent of factory workers so what are those billions of people going to do for their livelyhood?:)

  • So we are working 8 hours a day because of the industrial revolution lol. So we really need 8 hours a day? Why haven’t we reformed it yet?

  • I work 13 hour days. Including rushing in the morning to quickly down a coffee while shaving and brushing my teeth, it takes me two hours of commute back and forth, so that’s ten hours already, 1 hour mandatory lunch break. Then I need to cook for myself and some other chores. 1 hour. THEN can I do whatever I want, part of it is working out so I can stay healthy, which is kind of like work; and THEN I can maybe read a book for an hour or so. And it’s bed time, rinse, repeat.

    So really an average of 3, maybe 4, “free” hours a day.

  • I will ask you all how many of those 8hs you’re really productive. Doesn’t make any sense to me. Working by objective makes way more sense than working for am hour salary.

  • Dude. I understand you had some issues, so have the rest of us. However, please focus on a more positive approach, it will do you and us good.

  • I rather see it changed to 6 hours for work so that the remaining people who have no job can find jobs for companies that have 3 shifts to 4 shifts over an 24 hour day. the working people in my country are paying for the income for those people who have no jobs. is the monetary system and technology that is holding this back!

  • Don’t forget the technical progress. When machines make more and more stuff faster and faster, we simply need fewer human work hours. If we had the work hours of 1850, unemployment would be up through the roof. We simply can not afford today to NOT have short work days. And now we may have to cut down to 6 hours work days. (With no lunch break, which would save another half hour).

  • All bull y (haha bully) not do 1 hour or none @ all get robots 2 take over so we as ppl truly have freedom or 1 hour of work so more ppl cood work if they want 2 then if sum1 is gonna not show u got 23 other Bak UPS less hours or no hours relieve stress plus less likely 2 get sick or crash car bike hurt or die cuz ur forced 2 go sumwhere time is killn ppl cuz ppl rush 2 get 2 work try not 2 b fired rush home cuz work had meetn or forced 2 work longer 24 hours is wat we sood b able 2 have every day str8 freedom 365 only volunteers wood go 2 work

  • Why is everyone complaining about 8 hours a day being “too long” and “not having enough time when I get home” I go to school (7 hours) go to work (4 hours) than I run a online eBay business which takes about 3-5 hours so I do about 15-16 hours a day of some form of work 5 days a week and 3-5 hours on Saturday and Sunday I pull about 85 hours a week. I still find time to do other things it’s all just a matter of time management

  • If I may…Solidarity Forever!
    The 40 hour week is the result of working men and women fighting and sometimes dying in pursuit of a fair wage and decent working conditions.
    This was accomplished by those men and women organizing into collective bargaining units, also known as unions, and using the only tool they had at their disposal, the withdrawal of their labour. A strike
    Although Ford instituted a 5 day forty hour week, he did not do it out of the goodness of his heart. He was fiercely anti-union and pro-fascist, and it was the attempt by the nascent United Auto Workers to organize all the auto workers in the U.S. that led Ford to concede the above to the workers at his plants.
    All unions in the US are presently under threat and have given up many benefits that were paid for by the sweat and blood of those brave men and women.
    And the forty hour 5 day week is a dream from the past for the vast majority of working people today.
    If I may conclude with
    Be true to the union for it will protect and nurture you

  • Some 10 years ago I happened to be at the University of Kyoto for a conference, and saw a sign on the sidewalk in front of the University’s staff syndicate office demanding (in English) “one third for the University, one third for sleep, one third for the worker”.

    So, today I found out where that phrase came from…

  • If you can get done in 30 hrs what others require 40, that means you’ve got 10 more hours of production left. This isn’t a game of relative performance. So get off that soapbox and grind another 10 hours like you’re supposed to. I don’t care what laurels you think have to be respected as to resting after deciding you’ve outperformed all others in your 30 (or 2 or however many hours). It doesn’t work that way. You still have 10 more hours to go. The best course of action is to stfu and get back to work. Anything else wreaks of sniveling and special pleading. As you get a few more years under your belt, you’ll hopefully understand the logic in this?

  • Oh how incredibly kind of you, I think spending 5/7 days working leaves me oh so much time to get real human things done around the house, and Soo much time to relax…… 40 hours a week for s way too much. I wouldn’t complain working 3 10 hour shifts a week. I do 4 12s on 4 twelves off, 3 on 4 off. Not too bad but each work day is 100% work and sleep..

  • Sounds like you’re a little bit lazy. Most jobs you don’t get paid as much and you still have to work 12 hours. Nurses work 12-hour shifts. CNAs make threats have I was just.

  • The photo at 2:36 is of Parliament House Melbourne, where many employees  in Victoria were granted an 8 hour day in the 1850s, far earlier than the UK or US.

  • I love the bit about strikes and government starting the lowered work days and then mentioned who really did it…the capitalist Ford (because if you dont have time to drive it, and pay to afford one, no one would buy his product)

  • When I do work for work; outside of work, I copyright the heck out of all those things. I didn’t solve it at work, means if you want the benefit you better offer me something. Well, that is how life has to work in the physical labor market at least.

  • Turono bakery is a bitch 12 hours days 6 days a week. I won’t be able to spend any time with my girl, friends and loved ones. Yeah money’s good and all but what’s the point if you can’t enjoy it for your self and loved ones. Bills eats it all up. It fucking sucks being poor.

  • Listen to this dude, I used to be contracted to do 40 hours and it was nearly frowned on to do 40 and go home. I’d do 50-60 a week excl commute with little or no breaks and 5 mins for lunch. You slowly but surely burn out. And the erosion of your personal time makes you lose the will to live as long hours of work becomes the norm -its expected and underappreciated. Dont do it.

  • When did the 4 shift 12.5 hour work day setup begin? I work what’s called shift 6 and I start 7PM and work till 8AM with a half hour unpaid lunch. 4 nights on, 3 nights off, 3 nights on 4 nights off. The time off makes it nice but I was curious when the basically 2 shift daily rotation began?

  • You made me realize how terrible my internship was. Had to take off 1 day to do presentation on my university for the internship and because of that it was cut from my paycheck. Even though, I went to my company’s launch event on a Sunday and it wasn’t even paid. Not even transportation. At least food was provided.

  • You know what, I was going to try and do a blog. Maybe not for money, but it is a side interest. I am just going to double down now and do it.

  • The nazi’s introduced the 5 day work week just like state welfare for families with children so families could afford it to have children

  • This is true, I work as a fullstack software developer and Im most productive when I work 6 hours a day. I get more time to rest and live a healthy life with working out and getting my social needs meet. 8 hours workday for developers is retarded

  • Is 40 hours a week considered a lot? I worked at job at Hertz rent a car in sales where I worked 60 hours for two years. The work wasn’t that hard, but the management there we all unhinged lunatics and I went home every day exhausted. When I switched to another company, Apple, 40 hours felt like nothing because all my colleagues were smart, level headed individuals. I went home with tons of energy and loved my job.

  • And soon enough, if we can pull this down to 4 hours per day, we can have even more people working, places open longer, more profit to be made..
    OR, we can hopefully implement Basic Income and instead focus on bettering ourselves as a species.

    Or we could do both.

    Really though, I am just fiercely against 8-hours workdays.

  • A few things.
    You are way too fidgety.
    Stop opening your mouth so damn much when you speak.
    Stop spamming emotes with your eye brows.

    Chill on the drugs. You are feeling way to good, due to the drugs, and that is why your body is expressing its self the way it is.

  • Actually the data does suggest that countries with less working hours are more productive per capita. However the problem I think is the social capital(as Robert Putnam) in many countries which has given people less reason or means to live a fulfilling life outside of work thus keeping people at their respective offices and workstations.

  • Unfortunately, our government doesn’t like task based payment systems. Can you imagine if we allowed employers to pay based on completion of a project instead of hourly? Things would get done in half the time, and people could use the extra time to better themselves.

  • Joshua, i like your content. But despite companies not giving a shit about you. You can use the company to benefit your in ways people not fully realize.

    If the company has resources you can use. USE THEM, for IT it means certification. like networking and stuff, and if the company has those resources you can use that to learn while you are working. if you can get your work done and then keep learning then do it. 8 hours is 8 hours but if you can use 2 hours to educate yourself then use it.

    I can’t stress this more. Time management is a huge thing. if you can use the 8 hours to do stuff you would do after work then take that chance and just learn in the meantime. because after your work you would already have used some time to do a “side hustle”.

    Time management is so important and not talking about enough. i hope you do a video about time management:).

  • Ha! 8 hr. work days. Many places have gone to 12 hour work days. Talk about no time but get ready, go, work, shower and sleep! Try finding child care for 15-16 hours per work day. Then on your days off all you do is sleep, quick shop, quick clean. What recreation??

  • nagging nagging nagging. We are simply not productive enough to work less hours. If legislation could magically lower the needed hours, why don’t we make one hour work day?

  • Turns out treating people well actually makes them more productive.
    Basic income and normalizing a 6 hour day would do the same BTW, and that’s not just me saying it that’s supported by actual studies and experiments.
    6 hours a day is actually closer to what medieval farmers (except during harvest time) and hunter-gatherers had to work btw, and those people didn’t have robots or Ai. It’s the 19th century that was the outlier.

  • I was a shift worker, working 12 hours a day. To take 24 hours vacation required me to take a day & a half, whereas a normal day worker just needed to take a day vacation to get 24 hours off.

  • 100%! I’m on my 2nd week and holy shit man, its unreal with beep boop boppin like a robot. Sure it’s good pay where I live where min wage is 7.25 but god daaaamn. Music would help so muuuch

  • I currently work a minimum of 45.5 hours/week. I love my job, but it does leave me exhausted at the end of the day and no energy remaining for even basic housework, let alone enjoying the rest of the day and relaxing.

    I think a 30-35 hour work week would make much more sense and I don’t really see any loss of productivity happening, since we’d come into work with more energy and be able to accomplish more in that time. One would work to live, not live to work.

  • Accountant here. I do maybe 5hrs of actual solid-work. Then 3hrs of doing little bullshit tasks that take 15minutes each. (Scanning, answering the phone when clients call etc.)

  • Ever since I got hired on in June 2018 I’ve been sending weekly status updates to my manager. It was a piece of advice I learned from John Sonmez while watching his (SimpleProgrammer) videos in college. Use documentation to cover your own ass.

  • What location were you at? At my location in ATL we work 4-5 hours, employees can have their phone on them, & I haven’t had a bad experience so far. Amazon definitely can improve on their system and communication.

  • I’m going to my hiring event on Wednesday this would be my first job and ain’t nobody else wanna hire me so I might just have to take this opportunity ����

  • I’m using my free time during lockdown to further my self-employed I.T. support business for when normal life, whatever that may be, returns to normal.

  • You missed the big one. Companies actually hired efficiency experts to study things and they apparently found something very interesting. The most amount of work you can consistently get out of anybody with manual labor is about 8 hours a day. If you try to have them work more than that they end up producing less because they get tired and either work slower or make mistakes. If you want more work you’re better off having workers work 8 hours and then hire a second shift if you need more done.

  • I’ve held for a least ten years that a four hour work day is the most efficient. However, it’s not all about efficiency. There a concerted effort to keep the population over worked. The more leisure time one has, the more time one has to study and observe the world they live in. Soon after, the quality becomes more important than the quantity. Suddenly people are aware of how broken everything is and the inequality that exists.
    These types of things don’t sit well with those who benefit most from the status quo. Many men and women have died simply to be allowed to not be forced to be worked to death. It’s likely more will die in the struggle to purge the need to work to survive, to the desire to prosper as individuals and a species.

  • Oof!! The working long shifts without music is what hit me!! Then they get so so upset if we have headphones on ������ literally working and just being in your thoughts can be the worst

  • The thing that got me was that there was no music bro. all i head was the damn machines and buzzing. I brought my phone inside and i was tempted to put my airpods on at least

  • I agree I think that 8 hours is too long. By the time we get home we just throw something in the microwave, watch a couple re runs and go to sleep to start the next day. 6 hour work day is way more appropriate in my mind that would give us time to cook a real meal spent some time in the kids maybe get out a little bit it would really make a big difference in my mind. It would make us healthier both physically and emotionally. Given our standard of living, we can afford less hours too.

  • I work 4/10. I wouldn’t prefer 5/8. I could live with 4/8 if I were being taxed less, but then how would Thurston and Aiden be able to afford 17 yachts? And no, Trump’s dumbass tax plan isn’t benefiting average Americans. My taxes withheld are the same as before.

  • But, I thought I saw something indicating that the Britains were very progression in giving people more time off, Saturdays and Sundays etc.

  • This reminds me of when I worked at a UPS hub lifting boxes all shift. It was part time but just broke your body and mind down over a short time. Never again.

  • Shaelyn Shae
    What kills me is how they force overtime on you any day and anytime. That is so unfair. At lease let me pick what day I can come in to do the overtime. How you know I don’t have something important going on on the day you just signed me up to work over time on. I’m good! My last day was Wednesday I’m not about to be a slave any longer for this company

  • Yeah, as somebody entering the creative industry… 60 hour weeks are the norm and 80 hour weeks are what happen during crunch… Unfortunately the 40 hour work week is hard to implement even today:(

  • Personally where do you get your funding from you have no educational basis to tell us how to do our resumes you’re failing in Finland your education so you come back to the states thanking you know better than mostI’ve only been on YouTube for a year and a half so how can you tell us how to do our resumes

  • I worked at amazon as a packer and I was so freaking depressed.. can’t really talk, fast paced and can’t even use your phone… i would be in my head all day and it gave me so much anxiety… I felt so overwhelmed

  • Sooner or later someone will invent a pill to remove the need to sleep and America will switch to the 100 hour per week standard of work.

  • How can you not give any credit to the unions why help fight for this 5 day work week.ford said his own son was weak from a disease he could not help having. Makes me wonder what other info you release is flawed… Do a video on henry ford plz

  • This just reminds me of a song.
    “Lucky, lucky, lucky me, I’m a lucky son of a gun. I work 8 hours, and sleep 8 hour, and have 8 hours of fun.”

  • It’s such a lazy perspective of how working works.. I bet none of you in the comments including you Joshua would never be fine with having employee leaving the office after 2 hours everyday, because he/she felt like they were super productive. You apply for a job, you work the hours they pay you for, if you feel like you’re putting in allot more value than your salary reflects make it into an argument of why they should give you a raise, if they don’t wanna give you a raise you find another company who will pay you more. If you can’t find a single company who wants to pay you more, then you’re simply not worth the salary your ego aims for yet.

    All your arguments are basically how to skip work and feel entitled for payment, the fact that you literally believe “more hours isn’t = more work done” is stupid and you know it.
    Ofc you sit for hours doing nothing at work you’ll get less than if you sat for 10 mins and were super productive, but that doesn’t mean your conclusion isn’t dumb asf.

    What if you spend 8 hours super productive, and then 10 mins doing nothing the next day, how would the conclusion now look?
    The only joke here, is that you’re not even in your 30’s, yet you’re already so tried of the idea of work that you literally will lie to yourself about it on this level. It’s fucking pathetic dude.

  • at the amazon i’m at you always see people’s safety vests in trashcans or just right on the floor. it’s because people will just quit right in the middle of work soemtimes.

  • Absolutely! The whole corporate control model for management is fear-based IMHO, and serves 2 purposes 1) having managers to oversee an untrusted resource pool 2) as a justification for having middle management in the first place.

  • If I may put in a request?  I’ve always wondered how Neosporin (the antibiotic ointment) was invented or came to be.  That stuff is AMAZING with healing wounds!

  • The industry I am getting into has an average of 14 hour days. I am absolutely fine with that. The entry level pay for the department I am entering is $30 an hour. After 8 hours I get time and a half, after 12 I get double pay, and after 14 hours I get triple pay. I love what I do and you cannot beat the pay. I am grateful for the overtime and union benefits.

  • I work 4!0 hr days with 3 off and I have to say, 3 is perfect for a complete reset! that’s one reason why Mondays suck so bad for regular shifts. Its only another 2 hrs a day more and u need only 6 hrs of sleep a night for optimum brain function. 8 hrs of sleep is actually toomuchand its equivalent to 5hrs in regards to health

  • I worked at Amazon for three days as an undercover reporter. So bad I even had to walk out. Do you have an email in which I can ask you a few more questions?

  • Eight hour work days are an improvement, but there are still problems. People are more productive if they work according to their own schedules with the intent to get their work done rather than working eight hours a day and having to either pad or rush their work to fit within that time. There are days when I have eight hours of work, but I usually have closer to four and rarely have twelve or sixteen. I can’t work as efficiently if I have to stick to eight hour days regardless of my workload.

  • TBH: It’s because of these 40 hours a week jobs on why we rarely get to see people who are polymaths these days. Employees barely have time to dabble in other subjects. Corporate slavery is a thing in the industry and it sucks. You not only have to work for 8 hours a day for 5 weeks(it’s even worse on other countries), but you also have to be updated in every new frameworks!

  • Yes truth truth..I sadly work there. I’m getting depressed and I’ve got bad anxiety but I’m just hoping to last until I graduate school. Your cute btw

  • it wont matter what the “minimum wage” is, inflation will be attached right to that. if its $15 then gas will get spiked up, Rent, Roads will be crappier. Food, higher…if you speak on minimum wage also add Inflation. its all by design.

    Among that, its the same program, long hours, dont talk to the cute girls cause the married men who spend money on em get jealous and throw tantrums, then the cute girls be mad cause thats they sugar daddy, welp.

    But ALWAYS talk to the older workers or people there, they always gave me or give younger people game or advice, it helped alot for me.

    And Meditate before and after work, the sounds and lights will bother you over time, and Buy as much Affordable Sneakers as you can, 6 pairs, Break em in and Rotate, Water yes, Energy Drinks, tricky. but Water. Almonds and Fruits.

  • I work in international ocean logistics and get paid by the hour. There is not enough hours in the day to finish all I have to do.

  • Now workers are demanding 4 days of work a week.

    Just wait until employers outsourced all business to Asia where workers work 7 days a week.

  • I hated working at amazon I used to always cry cuz yes it was easy but so depressing I had to quit after my manger got on my ass for leaving 2 min early for my 10 min break when I was just leaving to have enough time to walk to the break room, that’s when I realized it’s just not worth the 15 an hour lol

  • I’m sorry, but our time is the most important commodity we have, it’s what gives us the ability to spend with our friends and family, the ability to enjoy life. Using this precious resource on a job has always been the worst mentality society has obtained, believing working is the best thing for the human race. What’s worse is that we’re payed not based on the time we give up, but instead what the people in charge believe we’re wroth, thus ripping us off.

  • It’s truly insane. Companies really need to switch over to be more flexible. Being efficient while working a job that has set hours simply means you get more work added to your plate.

  • I hate the System! I have to work every day exept 2 days a week until i‘m about 65 years old so until my life is basicly over and i only have like 4 holiday week? I hate this

  • Oh, come on! Ford did not benevently give out the 5 day work week and higher wages to his people!! The unions formed, and forced him to change his ways. Don’t make him look like a great man, because he was not!

  • agree a 7 hours workday and 42 days of rest may seem like a big reduction in hours worked in oecd countries BUT productivity will not decline almost at all, workers today use very expensive machines, creativity is involved so if an overtired worker damages a machine production stops, if an ideea eludes you at the office again production stops, so basicly we can reduce unemployment masively without massive loss in productivity.

  • I work 4 ten hour days with Wednesday off. Basically I never work more than two days without a day off. Since doing this I feel better mentally and physically. It’s nice to have Wednesday to run errands dr appointments etc. Most people want Monday or Friday off but me personally Wednesday is best.

  • I work 12 hour shifts. On a rotating 2 on, 2 off, 3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off. schedule. I like it. It works well with my family, and is easy to schedule holidays and vacation time. (i.e. if I take the right two days off… I get a whole week.)

  • Nothing against side hustles but I would highly recommend people investing in their health as well. My job is very stationary and mentally draining. I’m also a fat f*ck who eat too much unhealthy foods and sometimes in excessive portions. Working from home, I was able to run on my treadmill, do push ups, focus on meal planning, during phone meetings and all the free time I have since I don’t have to drive to work. I make enough money, my career is really stable (government work), and I save a lot of it. Sometimes I think about doing a side hustle but to be honest, I’m in a good financial position where I have the luxury of not needing to.

  • I moved up in 2weeks at amazon back in mid 2017, went from being a picker to problem solver. I was just walking around with a laptop at that point

  • We have seen nothing yet.. Unemployment will only rise and capitalism will colapse totally in its current form. Regarding the collapse of Capitalism apart from that Everything is debt driven and that cant go on indefinately. To be able to sell anything you need buyers and with diminishing workforces and stagnant wages it will spiral downwards. What needs to be done is shorter work weeks and some kind of “wealth distribution” to maintain some kind of a working society. The numbers of jobs will keep to get fewer no matter how the echonomy looks because of mechanisation and computers. It started with blue collor jobs robots building cars etc those jobs will never come back they will only get fewer. Now its whitecollor jobs and that phase is only in the initial state soon doctors/lawyers/teachers start to disapear. Office staff as such have nearly gone first it was the photo copier then came the Computer with e-mail. Looking at banking/handling of cash has all gone (my bank have no offices that handles Money physically by people all cash transactions both withdraws and deposits are handled by Machines and I guess soon the branchoffices will disapear. These are just few examples and the speed of change is only increasing. Putting the blame on globalisation is only a small part AND UNFORTUNATELY USED AS A SCAPEGOAT/DISTRACTION OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN ANYWAY SINCE THE UNDERLIYING PROBLEM IS SO GREAT NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. I do not have any solutions but to me its clear that the whole society have to undergo serious Changes regarding work/echonomic systems to avoid violent transitions. One way of going might be Basic wages/Citizen pay, paying all Citizens a unconditional basic salary and if you work thats extra. Several countries have done trials and Finland have decided to enforce it 2016-2017 and propably Switzerland soon after that. Well thats my thoughts on the subject no matter how you look at it dramatic times are ahead in the near future.

  • 40 hour a week is practically a vacations in china, most people work 60+ hour per week there, even banks open at sunday for a full work hour of more than 14 hour per day

  • Yeah, but then add on a one hour non-optional lunch break, a 1 hour traffic-enhanced drive (so 2 hours of stressful driving a day) and you got a 11 hour work day with an added risk of getting into a car crash and losing your life because you’ve gotten too tired at the wheel. Multiply that by five days a week and you got 55 hours of labour-related time lost each week of you life, 15 of which don’t benefit anyone, and you will conclude that the 60 hour work day isn’t that far off.

    … So, where can I sign up for a real protest?

    I don’t mind the 8 hours of work, I mind that I waste three additional hours each day doing NOTHING. Can’t we at least change it to 12 labor hours for 4 days so we don’t have to deal with traffic five days a week? There are so many ways to fix this, so much research on how inefficient and depressing the current job system is, and (most importantly) so much needlessly wasted time in life that is neither spent to be productive nor happy. I don’t think working is slavery, I think the fact that we have to waste time and risk our lives (by driving during rain or ice) in order TO BE ABLE to work is depressing

  • What you’re saying is literally true, but perception of how hard you work to managers and executives means more that the reality. It’s unfortunate but it’s completely true. You have to play the game and, sometimes, even play office politics-by learning the unspoken rules. Promotions and raises are, often, more tied to you being thought well of in the work culture, rather than to productivity. Just focusing on the reality of your work will not get ahead in your core job, normally. Work is effort but it’s also nuanced surfing of perception. That being said, I totally agree with saving the best hours of effort for yourself and not the company. No company has loyalty beyond increased revenue generation and share price. I’ve worked for “good companies” and “bad” ones but that is the all of them were corporate and all managed to that trait.

  • I believe Ford was among the first to shoot for the 2 day off thing. Not because he wanted time off for employees, but rather no one was buying his cars because they never had time off.

  • Workaholism Americans lot of them have to keep more than one jobs to just get by …. Many not workaholism by nature but have no choice.

    Who ever whom’s not dumb doesn’t want to retire young and enjoy the leisure? Only if one have enough money to do that.

  • Does the “don’t count hours” thing works all the way around? I mean if I’m not as productive at home, should I spend more hours instead? (((

  • Right, eight hours labour, pretty straight forward. Eight hours rest, an ideal dream so you can recharge yourself for the next eight hour day, and if you are a woman, for usually less money than men. So, that leaves eight hours left to call your own: to pee, pooh, shop, eat, cook, raise kids, have sex, do volunteer work, go to church, etc. Go to and from work, be political, get an education, etc. Nothing changes, really. Salmon swimming against the flow are more likely to succeed in life.

  • I’ve definitely been thinking about the side hustle thing myself while working from home. Because you’re right, and I learned this the hard way, but there is no such thing as job security.

  • Yes but part of the reason this is seen as so important is that not working or not working in a way that creates profit is looked upon very negatively. Welfare for the unemployed is not actually that big a burden for society as it is portrayed, quite often it makes up for less than 10% of national budgets. And there is a growing need for work that doesn’t and shouldn’t created profits. Like with our aging population, many old people are isolated and we need people that spend time with them.

  • Simon, your writers are idiots. The 5 day/40 hour work week came out of England. America was, and remains, 50 years behind the rest of the world in terms of labor practices.

  • 40 is an arbitrary number. Why 40, why not 60 or 20? Some people can get away with working less, some can get away with working more. Very successful people work over 40 hours week. As a PhD student I work well above that, and any serious professor doing research does as well. So do successful business owners. They work basically 24/7. Now most is one call, but business owners are on site over 40 hours a week.

    Some people can work less than 20 hours. If they earn a high enough income then fine.

  • Remote work to me is gold and not having to answer to some asshole boss or CEO who expects you to work like a slave for their project. I work on my own projects and make my own living on my own time with no need to rush or do 8-10+ hr days to “impress” some manager. I would highly recommend it and dont depend on someone else to pay your bills, me i am accountable for my own bills and family life not some doughebag CEO.

    Try it you wont regret it speak the truth JOSH!!!

  • Interesting thing is that 4 hours work/day would be much better for most people… and it might likely increase the productivity as well.

    8 hours of leisure might be hard to achieve even then, might be more likely 8 hours sleep, 2 hours commuting, 4 hours work, 2 hours food and stuff and you still need to do some houseworks, might spend some time self educating you which is not exactly a leisure…

  • This guy cries “modern day slavery” but gets paid 15$ an hour.. what a baby.. theres construction workers making less and not crying about it. Amazon is a piece of cake compared to other hellish places. And for 15$? Bruh… what a joke

  • “Educating people on leisure” are they serious?

    All I hear them saying is Central Planning. Stop trying to define happiness and efficient output blah blah blah just let the Market be as free as possible look for ways to free it this the ultimate distribution of wealth.

    I don’t think they have reached their satiation point when it comes to arrogance and humility.

  • Why do people work more than just their basic needs? Because people have unlimited demands. Demand does not come from a printing press, Mr Keynes.