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As Tax Bill Unfolds, What’s In Store for Obamacare’s Individual Mandate? TUESDAY, Dec. 5, 2017 As U.S. House and Senate leaders huddle to reconcile differences between their respective tax reform bills, the fate of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate remains uncertain. (HealthDay)—As U.S.

House and Senate leaders huddle to reconcile differences between their respective tax reform bills, the fate of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate remains uncertain. TUESDAY, Dec. 5, 2017 (HealthDay News)—As U.S.

House and Senate leaders huddle to reconcile differences between their respective tax reform bills, the fate of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate remains uncertain. TUESDAY, Dec. 5, 2017 (HealthDay News) — As U.S. House and Senate leaders huddle to reconcile differences between their respective tax reform bills, the fate of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate remains uncertain.

Senate Republicans’ sweeping tax overhaul measure, passed early Saturday, includes a provision to repeal the controversial mandat. As Tax Bill Unfolds, What’s In Store for Obamacare’s Individual Mandate? Please note: This article was published more than one year ago.

The facts and conclusions presented may have since changed and may no longer be accurate. And “More information” links may no longer work. In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Supreme Court upheld his signature health care law’s individual insurance mandate in a 5-4 decision, upending speculation after hostile-seeming.

The new GOP tax bill repeals Obamacare’s individual mandate. But just what is the individual mandate—and what does it mean for you?Adding the repeal of the individual mandate into the tax bill puts Republicans in an odd position.

Some Republicans have argued that the individual mandate isn’t actually effective at persuading. There’s been a big dust-up in the media this week as to whether or not Republicans agree with Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts that Obamacare’s individual mandate is a tax. What the. ObamaCare’s individual mandate had required most Americans obtain and maintain health insurance, or an exemption, each month or pay a tax penalty.

However, the fee has been reduced to $0 on a federal level starting in 2019. That said, some states have their own mandate/fee for 2019 forward.

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  • I cant believe I live in a “3rd world” country and I don’t have to worry about becoming bankrupt if I get sick and in the mighty USA this is still a thing 

  • False! This vid is 100% bullshit.
    The mandate is not apart of the Aca bill. What removed the preexisting conditions was the Patient Protection. The mandate paid for more Medicaid and even Medicare meaning redistribution of wealth. There will be no death spirals unless insurance companies just choose to pull out of Aca or the bill it self is appealed. Very false and misleading video by vox saying young healthy people need to pay for older sick people. More like people with money are paying for people without money is more accurate.

  • These Dems are getting so predictable.. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! LOL idiots.

    What happens to the children when their parents can’t afford to feed them anymore because of the insane taxes they are paying on top of Obummercare?

  • I have not seen anyone as thick as Biden, Obama, Heris, Clinton… or Democratic gangsters. A group of brazen, thick-faced, unscrupulous, immoral people, the most irresponsible and filthiest in human history. I can’t believe how their parents gave birth to such a herd of animals, sadly. If you do evil, you will get the most evil results, the demons in human disguise.

  • It’s just another way to get money out of us.
    I don’t the health care there offering and they should not force people to get it.
    If they don’t want it

  • What if the healthy people don’t have that extra money? I cannot afford health insurance, and I am penalized for not being able to afford it. It’s a bunch of crap!

  • I’m a registered Democrat and I am firmly against the individual insurance mandate. It is tyranny, it is unethical and it must be repealed. Obamacare is a modern day Intolerable Act. If there is a right choice to make, it is the right of the people to make that choice with their money, not the government’s job.

  • And now….. here we are 4 years later. I had good health insurance at work before the “Affordable Care act”(what a joke) bill was passed. Now I have absolutely no health insurance. Thank you Obama, & the Democratic controlled Congress.

  • This is bullshit. I lost my job and now am self-employed and want to sign up for health insurance but I cannot because I’m out of the open enrollment and don’t qualify for special enrollment. So now I’m stuck without health insurance, and to add insult to injury, I have to pay a monthly fine for it. This is unfair. Glad it’s repealed (starting in 2019).

  • He is wrong. Many states force you to keep “Ferrari rates” on your car insurance. Especially for cars that are not paid for. Do people really believe this bull? The individual mandate keeps cost down; same as forcing people to buy auto insurance. Remove it and rates will go up. This is common sense people. What we need is universal healthcare. It is half of what we pay now.

  • NO insurance mandates humm. Where is the repeal of the AUTO insurance mandates??
    You said people should not be forced to buy something. We are mandated to purchase Auto Insurance. Add the repeal of auto insurance and then I will believe you.

  • The government has no constitutional power to force me to buy something I don’t want. Regardless of what it is. Why can’t I have a catastrophic plan if I so choose? Instead I as a young, healthy person have to pay more to subsidize the lower income person who pays way less than I do but gets the same coverage.

    Way to tell only half of the story.

  • Here’s a promise I’m going to make you. You like your doctor, you can keep him. You like your insurance, you can keep it. lie of the century from Obama.

  • Obamacare or A.C.A can be used to reduce or control population growth in United States especially to immigrants..it’s good to Social, America’s economic interest and Americans’ prosperity interest as well imo

  • And Obama was getting the youth vote….Good plan really. The youth voted ideologically so you can give them propaganda BS. Then the older people could simply be bought.

  • Here is the deal. The individual mandate is a Republican idea. It came out of the Heritage Foundation.You can’t get more right wing than that.Mitt Romney when he put the original Obamacare in place in Mass. He said of the mandate, ” It will stop all the freeloaders going to the emergency room and then never paying the bill. If you can be told you have to buy car insurance, you can be told you have to be health insurance. In terms of it being illegal, the ACA was brought to the Supreme Court twice and held up both times. Chief Justice Roberts said of the mandate it falls within governments right to tax.To the doubters out there, THAT makes it legal in all 50 states. If the ACA sucks so bad why did it cut the uninsured rate in half in 3 years? Why have almost 10 million more signed up even after Trump cut the registration time in half just in this year? If it sucks so bad why aren’t the millions on it leaving and just buying a policy from the insurance companies? Think it might be way too expensive to buy from those scumbags? All this will do is raise rates and those pricks know it. The Supreme Court decides what is legal and Constitutional, not Fox News.

  • This wouldn’t be that bad if it didn’t make people spend thousands on premiums. There are millions who can’t afford insurance because they live in the gap of not rich enough to get Medicare, but still poor enough to not afford it. That’s why single-payer (while far from perfect) is a better solution than this, because while you will have to wait a short time, everyone is covered by the government.

    The current system sucks because everyone requires it through private companies, so the rates get jacked up regardless.

  • at some point I think a political scholar has to reason the consent to be mandated with allowing a set of racist institutions and their communities to vote such things into reality…

  • Jesus you guys and your assumptions again. it’s not a mandate it’s technically a tax. the us supreme Court decided that. use the proper terminology. and you still don’t understand the basic economics of healthcare. stop pretending your journalist or health economists.

  • For the ADD crowd pace was good and for probably many others. For those who found a two minute video too fast-paced, spending two more minutes to watch it again is hardly a hardship.

  • Repeating this comment because it’s the best one yet…… ROD VONN said”wow I’m sure glad those circles had smiley faces while they were forced to buy something they may or may not want… and no it’s not like car insurance because you can just stop driving. there’s no escaping this penalty disguised as a tax.”

  • CNN fails to tell you that Trump also removed the ObamaCare Fine penalty for lack of insurance. This is a step forward for the middle class. Especially, if you are a contractor with no health insurance.

  • I first of all think that charging those higher and higher each year for not having health care is wrong. The world would be a much better place if everyone is insured, but that is a very difficult thing to accomplish. And why should people have to buy insurance? They’re the ones that are in trouble in they are in an accident or something happens? Also, it says that all will be charged the same amount, preexisting condition or not. I get that those who have a condition should not be punished and I do agree with that aspect of ObamaCare. However, it says nothing about lowering costs to make it more accessible to those who are struggling financially. If you are going to force people to buy into something you have to make it to where it is something that they can actually afford. I get that there is always help out there for struggling individuals. But there are also times when someone is still struggling and they are told they make too much. Why should people be punished for trying to do good in their lives and they just simply can’t afford the insurance. I do believe ObamaCare has it benefits, but there is definitely room for improvement.

  • Although I am not a fan of the ACA, the individual mandate is absolutely critical for it to function. Without it, the ACA would certainly die. 

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  • I love how this video characterizes the aggressive violence of the state stealing your money as a cute little nudge of a cartoon smiley face. Propaganda at its finest.

  • I have a ideal. If you don’t want health insurance, don’t get it but if you get hit by a car you can’t get treatment for getting hit by the car

  • How is the individual mandate component of obamacare not socialism/ authoritarianism and a violation of free market principle of voluntary exchanges, emphasis on “Voluntary”. How is forcing me to purchase healthcare by paying profit making insurance companies not authoritarianism? (And having a penalty of tax burdens if I do not purchase that health insurance crap enforced by the IRS if I do not) If I believe I’l never get sick, then I deserve to be left alone, and given the freedom to bloody risk it with my own life, not be forced into a tyrannical government; the government does not own me. How is limiting my choice of insurance providers and forcing me as a healthy person to pay for sick people not socialism? Those insurance companies are supposed to COMPETE for my business, not get the government to force me to purchase their services.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism?s=t

    _”socialism
    noun
    1.a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.”_

    So two tenants; 1. common ownership of the means of production; bad… 2. re-distribution of wealth (in very high quantities) to the communities; also bad. (We already have redistribution to a certain extent; its called taxes) Obamacare actually goes further and adds a 3rd tenant which is “equality”, as everyone pays the same amounts, and by definition, not even socialism says anything necessarily about “equal” social outcomes.

    And I hear liberals try to counter argue that Romney started this, gess what I don’t freaking care who came up with the idea, its flawed at its very premises. Its anything but free market economics. Its crony capitalism masquerading as good intentions because as always feeling good is more important to liberals than doing good. Feeling your helping the poor is more important than what obamacare actually does, make the poor poorer, and makes the rich (insurance companies and shareholders) richer.

  • When did reason and logic matter to the democrats? They said vote for Obamacare to find out what’s in it. The Dems own Obamacare and it going to cost them more seats in Congress and 2020 election. Thank you Obama, we couldn’t have done this without you.

  • all of the downsides that Ezra Klein is talking about were already spoken of by numerous libertarian journalists over two years ago. I hate popular journalists

  • Un American. Thank god this mess is being flushed down the toilet. If you want health insurance GO GET A JOB AND BUY IT YOURSELF, mooch!!!

  • You can bypass Obamacare completely by signing up with a plan like Liberty Health Share which acts like lodge practice from the early 20th century. It’s exempt from IRS penalties and they are cheaper than other insurance because they exclude unhealthy people. If you are responsible and healthy, it’s a better way to cover your health costs.

  • So you’re saying that even though I’m not sick, I should have to pay for everyone else who is? OF COURSE I’m not paying for Obamacare, I DON’T NEED IT

  • Thing is, you don’t have to pay the mandate. All you need to do is adjust your withholding so you aren’t owed a tax refund. That is the only way for the I.R.S. to collect the mandate from you involuntarily. If you owe income taxes plus the mandate, send a check for the income taxes only, less the mandate amount, and the I.R.S. will automatically apply that check towards the income taxes. Have a mandate balance from a prior year and owe income taxes for the current year…? Send a check ONLY for the amount of income taxes owed along with a note saying that you want your money to be applied only to your current-year income taxes. (Indicate the same on your check’s memo line.) The I.R.S. will honor that…

    The injustice with the mandate is that millions of low-income people will have their refunds garnished by the I.R.S. because they weren’t insured-likely because the insurance on offer was a high-deductible rip-off-while uninsured members of the investor class will be able to skirt the mandate indefinitely. It’s really regressive and unfair, and you can thank Obama and the Democrats for that…

  • What if I’m left unemployed due to the economy left in shambles by the continued lack of economic sense the people running this country have? Why do I still have to pay for something I don’t need?

    DO YOU THINK I AM A SLAVE?

  • It is not pulling healthy people in. It’s pointing a gun and telling them you have to pay or else. This plan sucks. It makes the health care companies rich and everyone else poor. The video conveniently leaves out deductibles. They keep increasing because one really sick person can use up 100 to 1000 peoples premiums. Ya, when some illness can cost up to a 100k a day to keep a dyeing person alive.

  • This tax is stupid. I just paid 700 dollars so people who can’t afford health insurance can have health insurance because I can’t afford health insurance.

  • There is so much corruption in government and abuse of the system by doctors and patients in the US that healthcare will never be affordable let alone reasonable.
    If you’re fat, smoke, need meds because you don’t eat right, exercise, or hurt yourself skiing you want this. The rest of us don’t.

  • I get the idea on paper, but to me and my coworkers who work 24/7 on call for low pay, this is bullshit. It’s like you hardly make enough to survive, and then you get 2 choices: Pay the government your rent money or use it for healthcare that you don’t need. But hey, at least it’s for the homeless, because I’ll be needing it soon at this rate.

  • prop·a·gan·da
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    noun
    noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
    1.
    derogatory
    information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
    “he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda”

  • the problem: 
    My mom is a cashier at WALMART.
    I don’t know how much you know about Walmart, but working there she wouldn’t be able to buy food if we didn’t have stamps, and she has to pay the car payment, too. Because you know, transportation. She got on the marketplace and she can’t get a plan, even JUST FOR HER because she’s in the space between making too much for some help and too little for the rest. 
    How on earth is that supposed to be good?

  • well this still don’t help me in almost homeless work all week long and still don’t have shit what is it the government thinks they are going to get from me I don’t have $50 a month to buy to buy food it all gos to housing hell id not even have this computer if dad didn’t give me his old one expiations need to be made for the people with NOTHING to give

  • I’m not clear how it’s shared responsibility. If I make like $25,000 a year I could get coverage for about $1.00 per month on the bronze plan. But seeing that I make much more and I have a mortgage, a car payment, and I’m self employed my cheapest option cost me almost $5,000 per year, no help available because I earn too much to qualify. And to top it off this is mandated! How is $12.00 per year vs. $5,000.00 per year for the same plan shared responsibility. It’s one group taking almost total responsibility for another group. 

  • I will gladly pay into the system if it means sick people will finally get the help they need without being rejected for pre-existing conditions, etc. The rest of the modern industrial world does it and so should we.

  • Buy something or else the government will take away your property.  Obamacare like social security, child support, worker’s comp and income taxes will cause more and more people to work off the books or underground or hire people who don’t have documents to show that they have any legal obligations.  Obamacare may be the straw that breaks the back of America.

  • Why would health insurers behave differently from auto and home insurers? Auto and home insurers wouldn’t raise premiums just because fewer good drivers and fine homeowners are paying for it, so why would health insurers do that?

  • people don’t choose to become ill, 

    While video is highly digestible, its highly inaccurate and jumps to some pretty dodgy conclusions

    As illness/injury to a large extent is arbitrary one would think that a country that motto is about liberty would want to insure that its citizens are able to enjoy such liberty without an unwarranted burden placed upon them. 

  • Video aptly explains difference b/w socialized health care and (uhmmm?) whatever one calls the US’s current system.  E.g. the difference in a hospital bill IF one doesn’t have an insurance carrier to “negotiate” it for you.  The Obamacare leap of faith is that American “individualists” (generally Republicans) will see benefit in having a healthier nation. Or, if this is too intangible, these “individualists” will at least see the other death spiral we are now in the inflation of health care costs caused by the profit war between capitalistic competitors, health providers vs. health insurance companies.

  • President Trump blew this video the f-ck up in one year.:-P Now that he killed the individual mandate, we dont need to go around searching for idiotic youtube videos with that millennial asshat voice telling us about how it works LOL Bye bye mandate

  • SALT is unethical too…states that add a state and city income tax provide MORE services, why should taxpayers in OTHER states pay the difference that the High taxed state taxpayer deducts from HIS bill? repeal that TOO…mostly hurts sanctuary cities and Liberal run tax and spend states like NY and Cali.

  • If Obmacare is fatally flawed, as the repeal-Obamacare-crowd incessantly chants, how is it that the exceedingly similar Romneycare is successful?

    There are periodic attempts to repeal Obamacare but one doesn’t hear of such attempts with regard to Romneycare. I wonder if that is due to the latter having been proposed by GOP politicians while the former, championed by our president.

  • If i don’t want health insurance, I should not have to pay anything. Honestly, we should all just have health insurance and everyone just pays $30 to $40 in taxes. that seems more reasonable to me. I can’t stand owing over $600 a year simply because I don’t want health insurance. I never get a tax return anymore.

  • So, socialism… Welp, guess that whole “free market capitalism” thing is no longer needed! I’m glad we have so many successful stories of nationalized socialist healthcare! Oh, wait. We don’t. In fact we have an abundance of stories of how it makes hospitals even MORE of a nightmare. But hey, I’m sure those one in a million miracle success stories of how bonquiqui got her child murdered for free is more than worth it! Am I right? Or am I right?

  • wow I’m sure glad those circles had smiley faces while they were forced to buy something they may or may not want… and no it’s not like car insurance because you can just stop driving. there’s no escaping this penalty disguised as a tax.

  • If the US is going to keep a health care system start with scrapping obamacare and especially the mandate and approach it from a business stand point. Competition and tort reform would be a good start.

  • The deductible is way too high for most. If you are a receptionist making $48,000 per year but after paying your premiums absolutely nothing is covered until you pay an after tax $6,000 or more.

  • So with the act is more taxing? Prior to aca people that went to the er for a shot they would get patched up now they need the act to get seen and are being taxed more rather than before?

  • In Canada are Healthcare is publicly funded. General costs are paid through funding from our income, the based funding is set by a fixed monthly premium which is waived or reduced for those on low incomes. Health coverage is not affected by loss or change of jobs, health care cannot be denied due to unpaid premiums. Sure we pay a little bit of our income each month and it may seem like allot at the end of the year but its beneficial, especially for those hitting retirement. 

  • Corporate funded campaigns to defund and repeal ObamaCare are responsible for a lot of the false and slanted information on ObamaCare and jobs. This is because it’s cheaper for them to lobby the Government and fund anti-ObamaCare campaigns than it is to pay their share of it’s costs, to provide health coverage and to sacrifice their hold over workers by controlling their only access to health care for them and their families.

  • So the government is forcing literally everyone to buy some expensive health insurance so that the unhealthy people in our society can also spend even more money for theirs? Just another infringement on our individual liberties as consumers and citizens being taken away by the Obama administration and democrats.

  • It’s been unethical since day one, everyone always stayed on the periphery of this since the beginning. Nobody wanted to talk about it. Forcing people to buy a product is unethical.

  • I don’t have any income….I live with family and I’m 30… I don’t have insurance, medicare or anything… am I going to have to pay a penalty? 

  • It’d be hard for me to cover all the problems but here is the basics: younger people tend to be 1.healthier and 2.poorer, thus the individual mandate causes a burden on this group.  The second problem is that just because you are charged something and getting nothing, doesn’t mean it’s a better choice for you.  It’s only a better choice if the benefit of insurance cost of insurance > cost of penalty.  I’ve had talks with several economics professors who all say that the worst possible penalties that Obamacare could charge would not be enough to get the people they need in the plan.  In other words, it’s a tax on being poor and healthy.

  • The corrupt politicians will yet try to stiff the American people with the Banana Care mandate for those who do not have insurance that it will continue to be shoved down our throats to pay fines for not having insurance which is illegal to continue to force this Banana Obama tax on the American people that needs to brought to the U.S. Supreme Court to abolish this corrupt theft mandate….