Body Image as well as your Youthful Adult


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Body Image in the Age of Social Media. For teens and young adults, social media has added a new and often more critical way for them to look at themselves and compare their bodies with other people’s. The tools available to alter images, apps that are quickly downloaded and easy to use, can fix every flaw and blemish, slim big hips and enlarge biceps, allowing everyone to create a body. Body image issues come from the dissonance between our body perception and the beauty standards of modern society.

In this article, we’ll analyze the causes and consequences of this in young adults and teenagers. Managing Stress during the Pandemic Hubris Syndrome: When Power Corrupts. Positive body image in adulthood has been linked to better overall wellbeing and quality of life (8,12,55). This is reflected in our survey, where 34% of adults (28% of men and 40% of women) said they felt anxious and 35% said they felt depressed (25% of men and 45% of women) because of their body image.

A possible explanation for these findings is that in young adults, the pressures relative to body image (dis)satisfaction are pronounced, with a greater degree of preoccupation with current social standards that tends to stabilize at older ages. Generally, women are more concerned about their weight and body shape. A possible explanation for these findings is that in young adults, the pressures relative to body image (dis)satisfaction are pronounced, with a greater degree of preoccupation with current social standards that tends to stabilize at older ages [ 33 ]. Generally, women are more concerned about their weight and body shape. When your body image is positive, you are able to accept, appreciate, and respect your body (NEDC, n.d.). You won’t necessarily avoid feeling any insecurities or think your body is perfect, but you will be able to acknowledge any insecurities for what they are and believe that your body is perfect for you.

Body image researchers sometimes refer to this as “protective filtering.” What is meant by this is that social media that’s harmful should be filtered out of. Body Image and Your Teen The teenage years are a time of change. As they transition from children into young adults, teens must wrangle with new responsibilities, evolving relationships with friends and family, and a changing body.

Unfortunately, that last change proves challenging for many pre-teens and teens. Typically we think of body image concerns as a problem that affects adolescents and young adults, but this is not always the case. As several new studies show, the elderly, and in particular elderly women, are increasingly concerned about body image and physical appearance. What is body image? Body image is based on your thoughts and feelings about the way your body looks.

Sometimes the way you think other people are judging your appearance can affect your body image. Poor body image comes from negative thoughts and feelings about your appearance, and a healthy body image is made up of thoughts and feelings that are positive. Body image.

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The truth is, growing up I never really had a negative body image issue.

“Yoga and Body Image: 25 Personal Stories About Beauty, Bravery & Loving Your Body” by Melanie C. Klein, Anna Guest-Jelley
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by Melanie C. Klein, Anna Guest-Jelley
Llewellyn Worldwide, Limited, 2014

I had a wonderful loving family, and they didn’t treat me any differently, but around grade-school age, I became very self-aware of my body image.

“Southern Keto: 100+ Traditional Food Favorites for a Low-Carb Lifestyle” by Natasha Newton
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I had a body that was fully mature by age 14, which made me feel very self-conscious about myself.

“Bright Line Eating: The Science of Living Happy, Thin and Free” by Susan Peirce Thompson, PHD, John Robbins
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by Susan Peirce Thompson, PHD, John Robbins
Hay House, 2017

tance later in life, but through awareness, empowerment, and a willingness to amend our perceptions and behavior, we can secure our body image while we’re still in our twenties.

“20-Something, 20-Everything: A Quarter-Life Woman's Guide to Balance and Direction” by Christine Hassler
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by Christine Hassler
New World Library, 2010

changed me a lot, but at thirty-six I’m sort of set in my ways and certainly I still have a lot of weird feelings about my body.

“The Anthropology of Food and Body: Gender, Meaning, and Power” by Carole Counihan
from The Anthropology of Food and Body: Gender, Meaning, and Power
by Carole Counihan
Routledge, 1999

Although there is an enormous body of research and theory related to body image and eating disorders in adolescence and young adulthood (until recently, primarily focused on females), far less is known about the development of body image in childhood.

“Encyclopedia of Children, Adolescents, and the Media” by Jeffrey Jensen Arnett
from Encyclopedia of Children, Adolescents, and the Media
by Jeffrey Jensen Arnett
SAGE Publications, 2007

In general, body image tends to decrease through adolescence and gradually increase in young adulthood and beyond.

“Encyclopedia of Body Image and Human Appearance” by Thomas F. Cash
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by Thomas F. Cash
Elsevier Science, 2012

Because body image changes throughout life, it is thought to be both dynamic and developmentally based.

“Physical Rehabilitation” by Susan B O'Sullivan, Thomas J Schmitz, George Fulk
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As an adult I’ve become a lot more comfortable with my body and I think a lot of that has to do with just acceptance as an adult, but also having loving relationships with men who have told me that I’m beautiful, that they think that my body’s fine.

“Fat Sex: New Directions in Theory and Activism” by Helen Hester, Caroline Walters
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Once again, research strongly supports the notion that the body image formed in adolescence may be a major component of the adult’s body image.”

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  • The big key to changing negative body image is to kill the critic, and learn self-acceptance. This means accepting yourself as you are. Cognitive techniques are very effective in helping identify and change critical thinking. It can take time, but it’s worth it!

  • This is actually my first time seeing your video and YouTube channel, but I honestly want to thank you for this incredible amount of inspiration and emotional support���������� I probably will go and watch the rest of your videos now�� I really can feel that cozy and kind atmosphere here on your channel❤ Have a nice day��

  • I was checking some videos to show my students, and suddenly BTS starts playing….we love their power. Thank you for the video, hope my students appreciate it too.

  • There’s such a great video that you guys did with Barbie talking to girl students at a high school and it was so relatable! I am looking for body positivity videos to show my middle school students and although this was really sweet, those men are models, and they mention it several times. Yes they go through struggles of not being masculine enough, but they’re still all thin and attractive. Again not hating on the video, but I would just love to see Barbie interview some real boy students at a school! Thanks:)

  • I thought that it would be more phsycological, like, you can have a nice body, but at the same time be really unconfident and awkward. I don’t like that when they talk about confidence, they just talk about your body and not about other really important things

  • absolutely adored how you went straight to the point… 50 seconds into the video and you clearly have your idea already stated, and continue to explain it by dividing the video into specific topics (you’re really pretty btw)

  • my nigga this dude complainin about bein 5’11 and short. Boy I’m 5’7, my hairline recede and got mad acne scars. The FUCK you talkin bout bro. (I’ma still get your ho tho, bih)

  • Hey Wellcast, my girlfriend has quite bad eating issues, father issues, stress, depression, anxiety, she’s going through her exams, and is sooooo self conscious:( we are both 15 and life at the moment is pretty bad for both of us:/ I have tried so incredibly hard to help her through this and I have tried to get her to see a professional but it’s been 9/8 months and me trying to help her but not getting far is really damaging me too:( this is a very complicated issue but I beg you, please, please, please make a video on advice:( she’s started to selfharm and it’s really serious:(

  • Hey Wellcast, my girlfriend has quite bad eating issues, father issues, stress, depression, anxiety, she’s going through her exams, and is sooooo self conscious:( we are both 15 and life at the moment is pretty bad for both of us:/ I have tried so incredibly hard to help her through this and I have tried to get her to see a professional but it’s been 9/8 months and me trying to help her but not getting far is really damaging me too:( this is a very complicated issue but I beg you, please, please, please make a video on advice:( she’s started to selfharm and it’s really serious:(

  • Yeah your talk was great. I am very greatful to see a confident women like you. We as government have to fight to show our female generations, that everbody is beautiful, we don’t have to be look similar like the instagram girls. Every person has her beautys.

  • This really helped me out because I was in normal weight and every body told me to lose weight so i did and then the same people told me I’m too skinny this hurted me because I was like WTF do you want me to do i got better now after having a very bad eating disorder and I’m in a healthy weight

  • My weight gain from when I was younger is totally how you described yours

    And I always compare myself to when I was younger, but your advice really helped and made me not feel alone❤️❤️❤️

  • I like all shapes of bodies and we all should accept them as we accept that ppl have different eye colors. Your body your choice I am behind that. But what about clinical obesity. Obese ppl do not get as old as average weight ppl. There are a lot of health issues linked to obesity.
    When “you” say your body is awesome, maybe that is not the full truth? Goes also for anorexic bodies of course.
    So should we promote that and say… you know what your body is awesome no matter what?
    I guess not.
    Should we shame ppl for it? Definetely not!
    Is it my business how someone looks like? 100% not.
    So I struggle rooting for ppl who are obviously obese and therefore not healthy. I would never negatively comment on their body but saying that this is a good thing how they look? I am struggling with that too. This is completely separate from being good looking or not. I like “thicc” women as well.
    I love the idea of body positivity but I struggle with calling obesity a positve thing.
    I would love some intelligent advice on how to deal with this.

  • Im 14 and I look up to you so much, I’ve learned so much from your channel, and you, Amber, and Andrew are really helping me get through this quarantine! But seriously, I really needed this video. Thank you��������

    Came for Jungkook Andrew, stayed for the body positivity, comedy, how much I could relate, and all the other amazing things u taught me��

  • Why do they all walk so weird?? Like I can get past the different body types and heights but if you a model, you NEED to have a fly af walk. I feel like my eyes bled watching them walk

  • Do you know what? You made me cry with this video��. Thank you very much for this video♥️♥️, now I know why your channel is called “ur mom Ashley”��♥️

  • You’re amazingly beautiful. You’re perfect. Thank you so much for talking and sharing your model career, about fashion industries and the models. Lovely watching and listening to you on the top of the mountain of Italy.

  • Dont undermine yourself just because you’re undegrad and you know people will come at you thinking “she thinks she knows everything” if you know something girl you know something

    Yess i love their confidence����❤❤❤❤I been chubby for the most part of my life and its been soo hard because i was judged my my family and friends over my weight���� and I love that teen vogue can talk about these issues that we can relate to❤❤❤ i recently talked about my struggle on my channel,check the video out to relate and subcribe❤❤❤

  • ur the best ashley:) ily. i lowkey rlly needed this. lately my weight has been fluctuating up 5-10 pounds for some time now (i’m usually about 110 lbs) and it’s rlly been getting to me. every youtube video i watched about why i’m gaining weight said things like oh just go on a diet and recommended diets like the egg diet or the juice diet. i ended up trying those and i felt awful it made me feel so much worse and my body felt terrible overall and i hated it. every influencer on youtube i watched about dieting and what they eat in a day or workout routines + how i lost weight never talked about fluctuating weight and always made it seem like they never had to deal with that issue or they always easily maintain their goal body weight. it made me rlly angry and upset with my body but you’re the first youtuber i’ve seen say they also experience fluctuating weight up to 10 lbs and that it’s normal/it happens sometimes and that it’s okay. idk this is getting rlly long but i just rlly needed to hear that. i learned a lot from this video so thank u sm.

  • I dont get the point of this video…who shamed them? They’re just dancing around and saying random things..everyone has felt insecure and been teased at least a little bit..thats just the world we live in. Some would call it maturity to overlook it and move on to more important matter..

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  • thanks for helping me to love my body i always insecure about my body and i always compare with others (my friends etc.) but you helped me and i started loving my body(a little��������) but i love my body it does a lot of work for me so i need to be proud of my body and i want to say thank you and i love you ashley!

  • The thing is that when you’ve been skinny your whole life, hitting puberty and gaining weight seems like a problem. Because people start saying “you look… Different” or things like “Finally you got FAT”. That’s actually irritating and makes me want to go back to before, when everyone was just used to what my body looked like and not getting Shocked

  • Our teacher showed this to us, and I was not expecting BTS to come up, so when I heard it, I literally gasped and shouted “BTS!” and started spaz dancing lul I love you for this!!!

  • I was not eating well at woll. I was losing weiding and i was happy about deat ( i dont now way). After dat my brain started to tell me at every meal to stop eating. If i was eating much that my brai was telling me i was so unhappy. I wanted to do my self let this thing not to hapen but i can. Today i relaiz that i was sooooo dump what i didnt and wanted to be more and more skinner. Thank you ashele so much.

  • i just found your videos and i already love you sm everything you said i agree with 100% like how you’re not trying to push being vegan on us and how you need to eat for your body like i love thatttt

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  • Уже с первых минут я вижу ее невероятную ошибку и ошибки всех подобный ей, быть в рамках стандартов общества, тем более общества современного, это не блажь толпы, не фашистская хотелка невежественных хамов, и не диктат массовой культуры быть здоровой это требование твоего организма, и жир с целлюлитом этому требованию не отвечают.
    То есть, вообще наплевать какая ты, жирная или что то ещё, но элементатно общество не заинтересованно чтобы ты часто ходила в больницу и тратила деньги налогоплатильщиков, общество не заинтересованно тратить деньги на создание специальной среды для жирных, ну и наконец общество не заинтересованно сдерживать себя, испытывать моральный дискомфорт рядом с тобой и вообще общаться с тобой, боясь обидеть или попасть под критику каких-нибудь бодипозитивщиков с жирной тобой дискомфортно находиться рядом, морально неприятно выбирать слова чтобы не оскорбить ваше величество и вообще финансово накладно, поэтому я не люблю толстых )))

  • Yes remember girls, as we age we tend to go up a size or 2 and our metabolism slows a bit. It’s normal. Teenage bodies are still growing and developing. I’m 27 now, still working out and eating mostly healthy but I’ve gained 10 lbs in 7 years from 125 to 135 lbs. Work with it and stay healthy��

  • 2% of woman have the courage to say they are beautiful in a society that people with modesty are more attractive… at least thats what i thought when i heard the 2% affirmation…

  • I use to try to run and realized that it mad my anxiety way worse and I wasn’t getting much results at the time so I started walking! I found it so much more effective and relaxing

  • Hi, Wellcast! I have recently found out that I have bipolar disorder and its pretty difficult learning how to cope with my feelings of anger and sadness because of my disorder. Could you possibly make a video to help? Thank you in advance:)

  • I’ve been feeling really self conscious about my body since I gained WAY too much weight due to unhealthy eating. Ik this is a year late but this honestly helped me so damn much-

  • I feel like you’re the older sister I never had but need:) also I really needed this talk because I have a huge lack of confidence. Its not even about what other people think of me, my friends are so nice and they compliment me about my body and clothes all the time, its just that in the end I beat myself up over stupid little comparisons. just one more thing, you really remind me of my friend Ashley she’s super sweet and you guys look sorta alike.

  • I was watching a video on how to lose weight quickly and saw this instead so now I’m here happier than what I would’ve been if I carried on watching the other video:)

  • I’ve been obsessed with a day in my life and apartment tours this QUARANTINE because I just love looking at people live their life while I waste mine.
    It’s the sad truth.

  • I want to eat healthy because i’m just lowkey unhealthy these days and I wanna improve
    But what I really hate about doing all these healthy stuff is that something is always stopping me from doing it like, theres always chocoalte in the kitchen and I just can’t control myself.

  • She looks so beautiful! Most of man those who enjoying left the heavy weight in the gym might admire to get a girlfriend likes her… I’m not a state in a joking haha… I have a big anger that craving haed to women who have nice and big figure and muscle

  • Lol your body is perfect and I’m fuckin fat and ugly. My belly looks so bad. I don’t look at those Instagram models, I don’t care about them, but when I look at other teenagers around me their bodies look 10 times better

  • Thank you so much for finally talking about resources!!!! Everyone always focuses on photoshop/facetune, but NEVER mention the fact that it is these models job to be thin/lean/tone.

  • thank you ashley���� this video has helped me so so much in improving my mental and physical health, i’m so grateful i came across ur channel!

  • I’m gaining weight rn. I now weigh like 110 but its going to my stomach and im used to having a flat stomach. I mean its not that bad but its taking a while for me to love my poach (that’s what i call it lol) and yeah I’m really proud of myself♡.

  • We watched this in class for positive mental health week and I was just singing along to fun boys and I’m like the only one who knows bts in my school.

  • For all the people asking “but is she healthy?”: skinny does not equal health. Larger bodies can be healthier than skinny people. Your health depends of MANY things, like your habits (do you smoke? do you drink alcohol? do you move regularly? do you eat yor fruits and veggies? do you sleep 7h at least every single day?..), it depens of your economical status, where do you live, your social life… so if you keep this in mind, you CAN’T tell by the body size of someone if they’re healthy or not. So please, be a little bit more empathic with the people around you and keep the fatphobia for yourselfs.

  • This isn’t the first time I watch this video but for some reason it hit me hard watching it again. Im going into college this fall and I really want to be more confident and have a positive mindset but its hard when in my head I constantly put myself down. When you said that if you wont say awful things to your friends then why would you say it to yourself. When you said that I honestly started crying because wow thats straight facts. I think this video was a wake up call for me to better myself and thank you for helping me:’)

  • Did I gain about 4kg/9lbs in quarantine because I now have alot of time to eat? Yes. Am I upset about it? Not at all. It really is about how you feel in your body and not about numbers.

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  • 2:20 What is it like to be labeled? I can tell you because I’m labeled every day… by women. Just because I’m a man. And nobody cares. So, as you can see, I have no one to learn from how to be understanding.

  • i find it easier to eat healthy for the big meals but i never know what to have for snacks cuz most of the stuff that you can jus grab is unhealthy and the only foods i like for snacks that are healthy are fruits. i also really wanna go vegan or at least vegetarian but my family wouldn’t so it would be super hard and i also wouldn’t know what to eat

  • we watched this in class for our class on how important positive body image is. my whole class was laughing the whole ‘excuse me’. ♥️ this is awesome!!!:)

  • I feel like if you meet her in person give her a hug because of this moving words of wisdom, she’ll hug back and understand it from that exchange of hugs no matter how long the hug is. Like words can’t describe how this speech moved a lot of people to accept this narrative that we need to look at people as people and not on other aspects, as long as they’re healthy we move on together ����. Spread positivity people (:

  • Hi Ashely this might be very late…. but I wasn’t small when I was small..and I have always had a problem with my looks weight and my eating..I had a stomach and probably like a large percentage of fat but not obese just fat…and I am struggling right now with weight..and I just really want that skinny body or even a fit body with abs, I just don’t want fat on my belly and I have been running very morning and going to the gym 3-4 times a week, I have also cut out sweets but some times I bing on jam, pb, yogurt, honey, those thing but just not donuts, cakes, burgers. and the reason why I don’t eat cake because I have a feeling that I will pick up weight…but the thing is its not really forcing myself not to eat the chocolates and stuff there are some times were I dont want them, but people say that I should treat myself which is very hard for me o do right now… I have also lost my period for about 4-5 months now and I have been eating more I guess? but it still hasn’t come and I am really scared! Because when grow up I want to be able to have kids and I just want to be healthy again…its so hard for me right now because some day I feel I can do this but when I start to hear people say I am looking better does it mean I have picked up weight? does it mean I am going to be fat again? I am probably the most insure person right now… But to see you do talking positive about yourself means the world <3 I also have a twin sister who was smaller than me when we were younger and now she has a more woman body than me meaning she has bigger boobs and she is kinda taller but like by 1cm or something? but I know she has more fat percent on her Bodie than I do.. and sometimes I just want to be the smaller twin now but I also want to be the healthier twin...she has her period and I also have a little sister and she is like one of those skinny ones.. and I just think all the time. why? why do I need this body, why do I need to train to lose weight when both my sisters can eat whatever they want and still stay fit? I get so emotional on this its so annoying... ps sorry this is so long hopefully you have an idea of what I am trine say...and hopefully you get to see this.

  • I hate so much when women talk about bodyshaming like it is only a female problem.
    Guys feel hurt the same too and in the same way.
    According to science, men are just better than girls at hiding their emotions. That’s why it seems like they’re always OK even when they’re not.
    I’m so tired of seeing the word “women” everytime someone talks about bodyshaming.

  • She’s pretty, and it’s important to love yourself, but it’s also important to realise when your weight is unhealthy and not ok, and to do something about it.

  • You are beautiful Ashley. why do you worry about what people say? was it difficult to find people who appreciate you with this beauty?

  • we watched this in health class because we’re learning about anorexia and self image and stuff and let me just say this is my new favorite video

    NO hate

  • This makes me realize how not okay my mental health is because of the fact that this was on my recommendations.. but thank you for putting this out there darling I love you!��
    It must have taken a lot of courage to make this and explain how the confidence is for you, you are so so special.✨<3

  • The height thing bothers me. height doesn’t make anyone more attractive. as long as you’re like half a head taller tham the girl your into, ur all good. Being too tall is also a thing. idk, maybe it’s because i’m 5’1

  • You are so unbelievably beautiful and that makes me feel ugly and bad about myself…. I hate that I am like this but it’s true I can’t help it.

  • Thank you Ashley, so much for promoting acceptance for those not designed to be small women. After all, people come in all shapes, sizes and colors, like flowers. There are so many other things that unnessarily divide our world, its pitiful. Folks need to wake up… we are all related as part of the human family.

  • `iqam so gladwe are not about or allowed to tell her a body activuist should be fit and stop braggibng about modeling as if it makes youy? whaaaaaaaaat?